Official Jon Gruden Thread XIII

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I dont know what to believe but if the agents remarks are true wouldnt ESPN be rubbing it in all over ESPN I went to the site and all that is on there is about our search not foccussed on Gruden article seems wierd.

wait till this evening. ESPN hates us.
 
One thing is for sure...

Dave Hart is about to get his **** pushed in.

There's only a handful of hires that will save him from the ridicule that is sure to follow.

Except . . . he won't face any ridicule from the Knoxville "media" and we are too irrelevant now for some national reporter to go digging.

It'll have to be the fanbase.
 
This. I think its over but nothing adds up.

So we have had a job opening for two weeks now and we haven't heard ANY other candidates name mentioned in the sense of a serious interview or discussions taking place . . .

And everybody was up in arms when ANY OTHER name was mentioned while this circus was going on. Nobody wanted conversation about any other coach except Gruden. Now that Gruden's blown UT off, Hart is either guilty of not making the Gruden hire or sitting on his *** for 2 weeks.

I don't believe for a minute that you can lay all this on UT nor do I think Hart got up this a.m. and decided it was time to begin his search.
 
You are crazy if you think Hart isn't to blame. I don't believe the story but even if it was true Hart should have found out Gruden wasn't interested weeks ago and let that leak out. This would have been best for the university and the new coach.

How many coaching hires has Hart dicked over????

How many potential college jobs has Gruden.......

you be the judge

anybody remember Leonard Little's tweet now about no one's bigger than the university from a couple days or week ago?
 
So, now even Rucker is saying Gruden did have interest and that the LaMonte comments aren't true... I am lost.

yea, weird:
Wes Rucker @wesrucker247
That is not accurate. RT @iamstevehill: @wesrucker247 according to Gruden's agent now, there wasn't interest.
 
The agent's statement was simply damage control for Gruden. What makes Gruden look better: 1) We wanted more money than UT was willing to or could come up with, or 2) UT sucks and it was a fantasy that Lord Jon would ever consider coaching there?

Give me a break, if you believe that freaking agent then you deserve what ever misery this gives you.
 
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I have a hard time buying Hart did this to himself sounds like the boosters loved Gruden and Gruden loved himself.

who knows what to believe. i'm just pissed. Hart had to know what the fans have been screaming for for over a month now. If you believe the agents response and Hart truly didnt even contact them until today, then it hurts much more than "we tried but Gruden said no". Im beginning to feel we never tried at all. but what do i know
 
It appears our "insiders" were fos too.

My guess is they were getting info from people that have proven to be reliable in the past. Things just went south at the last minute. Hargis seems very credible. Got to think it may have been the money or Gruden bailing out in the end like he did with Miami and Notre Dame.
 
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"fantasy land" comment really chaps me.

He doesn't want the job, fine...Hart screwed up and didnt offer enough, fine.

Calling my University and it's top tier football program(yes it still is) a "fantasy", is totally uncalled for.

I dunno... maybe it can be interpreted as words to try to push this off the radar as far as possible. But I agree it stings a bit.
 
There's like 5 of us left sitting in our chairs randomly in the theater still watching the movie. We should all move in towards the middle an sit close to each other. No right next to each other tho...they'll think we are gay.

I will be on the hill until the enemy moves in and takes my life. I will hit him in the mouth as he pulls the trigger. I am no professor, by any means, but it doesn't take a rocket professor to realize that things aren't adding up. Not Just Yet.
 
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It may be over, but nothing about the narrative lines up to make sense.

I'll be here no matter what happens. You guys can take your best shots.....after we hire somebody else.

x1,000. Amazing how many people still don't understand how this process works--it raises lying to an art form. You have to parse every statement and can't take anything at face value. "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" (assuming oral sex isn't sexual relations of course). I am NOT saying Gruden is still coming. But it wouldn't surprise me. Negotiations and contacts are handled through third parties until the very end, precisely so the AD's and agents can claim truthfully (technically) that they haven't spoken to so and so, or haven't "offered" anyone else the job until they got their man. Note that LaMonte didn't say he hadn't talked to ANYONE about the UT job--just that he hadn't talked to Hart. Either this thing has fallen through (I think this is the most likely explanation), or they have upped the ante on buying more time for an announcement in an almost nuclear fashion, but we won't know for sure until someone else is announced.
 
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You are free to have whatever opinion you wish to have. This whole deal is crazy. It looks like there's a full-scale war between boosters and the UT leadership. I really don't know what to think right now. If we hire someone other than Gruden, I'll be here like I said to take whatever.

ITA with this. I'm out of Likes.
 
You are free to have whatever opinion you wish to have. This whole deal is crazy. It looks like there's a full-scale war between boosters and the UT leadership. I really don't know what to think right now. If we hire someone other than Gruden, I'll be here like I said to take whatever.

I am still here with you Jay... as I promised until it's over
 
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The agent's statement was simply damage control for Gruden. What makes Gruden look better: 1) We wanted more money than UT was willing to or could come up with, or 2) UT sucks and it was a fantasy that Lord Jon would ever consider coaching there?

Give me a break, if you believe that freaking agent then you deserve what ever misery this gives you.

Sounds plausible.
 
I'm am not sure what to think/believe. Something is just not right, dots don't seem to connect. I kinda got this feeling like I have left the house and it seems like I have forgot something, and it turns out to be my wallet.
 
You are free to have whatever opinion you wish to have. This whole deal is crazy. It looks like there's a full-scale war between boosters and the UT leadership. I really don't know what to think right now. If we hire someone other than Gruden, I'll be here like I said to take whatever.

People in the AD need to be fired over this. Regardless of the coach, this whole thing has been ridiculous.
 
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