Official Jon Gruden Thread XIV

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when as much money, time, and effort is on the line here, would you not think it possible that there would be some pretty intricate and thought-out plans/diversions to insure nothing got too out of hand?

Well thats the delima I'm having. Seems too weird that after all this it would just fall through the same day an article comes out about it. Not a whole lot about this situation makes sense to me, as far as what the majority of the media is trying to tell us. So I hope for all our sakes it is a smoke screen and Gruden is still on. Because honestly the other scenarios don't make a lot of sense either.
 
Take business out of it, do you think Gruden would let talks go as far as they did, get his wife's hopes up of coming home, and because it broke sooner than he wanted call the whole thing off?
 
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Babyvol has balls.

I like it.


I don't necessarily think he has "balls". He gets very good information and he believes in it.

It's just like everyone else. People hear things and decide, based off that, what to believe. He just believes something different than what the majority of everyone else does based off of his info. I can't say I blame him, or that I even disagree with him. And I'm very, very serious about that. Unlike 95% of people being "hopeful" in their belief of Gruden, I am very confident in my belief of him coming; not wishful
 
I for one think that everything Stephen Hargis said was absolutely true. The guy never waivered, said his source was someone who was contacted by Gruden about being on his staff at Tennessee.

The only delima I have is whether or not this really did fall through at the last minute, or if its an elaborate smoke screen like some say.

Love you avi btw.....seen em in concert many of times......
 
We are one of the best programs in the country.
Here is why Gruden would come WE ARE UT!!!
Im Chucky until Gruden LXVI

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I don't necessarily think he has "balls". He gets very good information and he believes in it.

It's just like everyone else. People hear things and decide, based off that, what to believe. He just believes something different than what the majority of everyone else does based off of his info. I can't say I blame him, or that I even disagree with him. And I'm very, very serious about that. Unlike 95% of people being "hopeful" in their belief of Gruden, I am very confident in my belief of him coming; not wishful

how can it be gruden if he can't announce until the 15th, and there is a guarenteed presser already for tomorrow to announce the new coach? who to believe?
 
Well thats the delima I'm having. Seems too weird that after all this it would just fall through the same day an article comes out about it. Not a whole lot about this situation makes sense to me, as far as what the majority of the media is trying to tell us. So I hope for all our sakes it is a smoke screen and Gruden is still on. Because honestly the other scenarios don't make a lot of sense either.

A lot of information and news got way out of hand way too quickly. This was not something that people called around at the last second and said "hey we need to get some of the heat off, you call this person and I'll talk to this person".

It was something that was laid out ahead of time for when/if things did get way out of control, as they did. When it happened, everything we saw were not impromptu responses; someone pulled the trigger and it all happened.
 
I don't necessarily think he has "balls". He gets very good information and he believes in it.

It's just like everyone else. People hear things and decide, based off that, what to believe. He just believes something different than what the majority of everyone else does based off of his info. I can't say I blame him, or that I even disagree with him. And I'm very, very serious about that. Unlike 95% of people being "hopeful" in their belief of Gruden, I am very confident in my belief of him coming; not wishful

Don't care about ball size... I want to know if there is any drinking involved when Babyvol and his "source" talk. I am totally serious with that question.
 
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