Official Jon Gruden Thread XV

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All in..I have to be especially since the alternatives are dwindling. Yesterday was a battle and got vicious. Is Hart a master or has he truly botched this?
 
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InVOLuntary said:
If there is no official word from UT today I don't think it will be Strong. I can't see him allowing this cloud to linger. He'll either squash it or accept it. JMO
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Did Arkansas or auburn officially announce yesterday???

I don't think there was a presser??

That's the kind of reports I think happen today for us
 
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BruinVol said:
I think presser unlikely today but I am 90per sure we get concrete reports of who the coach will be.
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What if Slice's post from yesterday is true? Gruden will make his decision today. If it is no, then Strong will be announced. But, if yes, then there might not be an announcement for a while longer.
 
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I did a rare evening postings to the thread yesterday. Why did no one warn me that this place is like downtown Atlanta - fun to hang out in during the day, scary as h*ll once the sun goes down?
 
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fhod_dj_x said:
I posted this yesterday, I've thought this a smart process for dealing with a potential wishy washy coach that may be highly sought after:

After reviewing the facts/rumors presented over the past few months I can 100% say harts original plan was to talk to Gruden and work out ballpark figures/terms and proceed with the hiring process as if he doesn't exist. This gives him leverage/insurance on Gruden, knowing if BOTH sides don't meet in the middle there IS a guy lined up ready to sign the contract. Tennessee is the top available job in the NCAA, in the top conference but in a division that is generally very fluid compared to the west. Also a school he has emotional attachment to. And if Gruden changes his mind at any point in the (approximately) 3 months they've been talking, UT has a viable backup option that will still be seen as a success. The thing is, Dooley made a HUGE problem by how bad the team performed late in the season. Had he beaten vanderbilt, he would have been coach for the Kentucky game, and likely fired after. All accounts point to Gruden talks starting as early as before Miss St., and at the time there was no reason to think we wouldn't make a bowl game. I firmly believe the plan was to fire Dooley after the bowl game and announce Gruden in one swift move. Why? How many NFL/NCAA teams do you think want Gruden? They ALL think he's off the table, but if they hear him negotiating with us it opens the door to offers we probably can't match. That's Hart's reason. But why would Gruden go along with this? Over $1.5 million he stood to receive after the Kentucky game in MNF $$$. A coaching announcement would seriously jeopardize that $$ that's already virtually in the bag However, the extra week + pre-bowl time that we didn't get started the media frenzy WAY too early. Hart needed a smokescreen so it would not look like he's incompetent. Gruden rumors still surfaced though because no respectable coach would be caught interviewing before the end if the season and people know Hart is indeed competent, so hart needed to misdirect until other candidates could be interviewed. (Which is why Hyams kept scooping flip-floppy stories on meeting/no meeting/Grude talks/no Grude talks ever) Gruden's agent followed suit because he also stood to make some of that sweet MNF $$$. I think long, long ago he decided he wanted Gundy if Gruden fell through. Why? HE IS THE ONLY GUY THAT'S BEEN ON OUR LIST THAT IS NOT IN A GREAT POSITION TO GET AN EXTENSION!!! I'd bet the farm ALL other candidates are on the list because they seem like 'solid hires'. Imagine Hart walking up to Strong. "Hey, you mind interviewing with us? We've got another guy but it would help us out and you could probably nearly double your salary." I'd take him up on that. Question is: did the Gruden talks fall through or not?....wait and see. There will be a point that it is down to seemingly only Gundy (even more sure than Strong was to be our coach yesterday)...but I'm very much sure (even moreso after watching this Strong thing play out) that a different fella will be announced...BOOM!!!
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Call me a believer of fantasies...but this is a great synopsis.
 
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HausVol said:
When this thing is over, how ever it ends. I hope we can establish a thread that we can all hang out in. I can't stand the thought of the FF forum. There are some good folks in this thread.
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I agree with this. Although I no longer think Gruden is an option, (hopefully I have no idea what I am talking about), the people in this thread are great. My fave place on VN for sure.
 
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Elvis68Vol said:
I did a rare evening postings to the thread yesterday. Why did no one warn me that this place is like downtown Atlanta - fun to hang out in during the day, scary as h*ll once the sun goes down?
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That thar is funny, I don't care who you are. :)

I know what you mean, it was brutal last night.
 
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EZE said:
What if Slice's post from yesterday is true? Gruden will make his decision today. If it is no, then Strong will be announced. But, if yes, then there might not be an announcement for a while longer.
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Anything is possible. The funny thing about slices post was it was exactly what I have been saying word for word about gruden. I have been slammed saying that we have met every demand of his and kept changing them. His post put the clear blame on gruden just like I have been since Friday.
 
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Volsorta said:
All in..I have to be especially since the alternatives are dwindling. Yesterday was a battle and got vicious. Is Hart a master or has he truly botched this?
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I have a very bad feeling that when Hart gave his press conference, he was very confident in getting Gruden. Then 11/30 happened. Ever since he's been running around trying to find a replacement.

At this point we are either witnessing the most elaborate smokescreen of all time or we are truly getting screwed. As for me, I never understood the need for smokescreens.
 
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All in, until it's all over!!!!


Dave Hart, my dreams are yours to crush or salvage. Be gentle....


The Grude sounded a bit out of his element this morning on "Mike & Mike".

Strong is a weak hire.

Grundy isn't looking for stiffer competition

TN Football needs this!

VFL!

2013 "Rise of Chucky"
 
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Elvis68Vol said:
I did a rare evening postings to the thread yesterday. Why did no one warn me that this place is like downtown Atlanta - fun to hang out in during the day, scary as h*ll once the sun goes down?
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It was one of the worst nights I can recall.......like a completely different place fo sho
 
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BruinVol said:
Anything is possible. The funny thing about slices post was it was exactly what I have been saying word for word about gruden. I have been slammed saying that we have met every demand of his and kept changing them. His post put the clear blame on gruden just like I have been since Friday.
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It is disconcerting if Gruden still hasn't made up his mind.
 
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