Official Jon Gruden Thread XV

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#8,777
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I've been cautiously optimistic since Gruden XII (even got some info from a Knoxville Cumberland Ave bar manager that I shared, turned out to be a little off). But I'm back in! Gruden or Bust 2013!
 
#8,779
#8,779
Could Strong/Gundy/Fedora be the "list of three" that Basilio posted about a few weeks ago?
 
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BruinVol said:
Anything is possible. The funny thing about slices post was it was exactly what I have been saying word for word about gruden. I have been slammed saying that we have met every demand of his and kept changing them. His post put the clear blame on gruden just like I have been since Friday.
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Many in the media have been saying that money would not be the issue that held up Gruden to Tennessee.

My own personal feeling is that it's power. I think Gruden wants some kind of quasi-AD powers over the football program and Hart doesnt want to give them up. Again, that's all just my opinion.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
I have a very bad feeling that when Hart gave his press conference, he was very confident in getting Gruden. Then 11/30 happened. Ever since he's been running around trying to find a replacement.

At this point we are either witnessing the most elaborate smokescreen of all time or we are truly getting screwed. As for me, I never understood the need for smokescreens.
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If this story is playing out like we want it to, then LaMonte's report friday was the ultimate way of creating methodical madness.
 
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hohenfelsvol said:
Don't estimate Hart's ability to screw tis up. He's done a stellar job. And then you have the rest of the Vol fans hoping we fail so they can play the told you so card. Sickening.
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What the eff is the obsession with the I told you so's? If they don't hire Strong, I am not busting in there to gloat.
 
#8,784
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MWAVolfan said:
I have a very bad feeling that when Hart gave his press conference, he was very confident in getting Gruden. Then 11/30 happened. Ever since he's been running around trying to find a replacement.

At this point we are either witnessing the most elaborate smokescreen of all time or we are truly getting screwed. As for me, I never understood the need for smokescreens.
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This is where I'm at. It's either we are great or we are screwed. There is no gray.
 
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EZE said:
It is disconcerting if Gruden still hasn't made up his mind.
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If my info was right we certainly wouldn't expect him to change his mind back to us. A call might have been made saying "we have a candidate in place and we are officially offering him the job unless you give us reason not to". That's best case IMO
 
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hohenfelsvol said:
Don't estimate Hart's ability to screw this up. He's done a stellar job. And then you have the rest of the Vol fans hoping we fail so they can play the told you so card. Sickening.
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I dont think there are a lot of Vol fans who are hoping we dont get Gruden. They are just not on board with believing we will get him.
 
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MWAVolfan said:
Many in the media have been saying that money would not be the issue that held up Gruden to Tennessee.

My own personal feeling is that it's power. I think Gruden wants some kind of quasi-AD powers over the football program and Hart doesnt want to give them up. Again, that's all just my opinion.
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Perhaps that's the case, as I had been acknowledged many times here, but why doesn't the money grab him by the neck and squeeze?

Bama did it to Moore at the last second.
 
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Elvis68Vol said:
I still say we gave as good as we took. My body is still aching though.
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A few of my posts made zero sense...I mean zero. Those guys were making me crazy. Idiots...probably can't wait to tell their kids Santa Claus doesn't exist...
 
#8,792
#8,792
Here's a list of some Bob Lamonte clients
[Gruden's Agent[

Some of LaMonte's clients include:

Mike Holmgren (Former Cleveland Browns President)
Andy Reid (Philadelphia Eagles Head Coach/Executive VP)
John Fox (Denver Broncos Head Coach)
Steve Spagnuolo (New Orleans Saints Defensive Coordinator)
Leslie Frazier (Minnesota Vikings Head Coach)
Pat Shurmur (Cleveland Browns Head Coach)
Charlie Weis (Kansas Head Coach)
Tim DeRuyter (Fresno State Bulldogs Head Coach)
Josh McDaniels (New England Patriots Offensive Coordinator)
Brian Schottenheimer (St. Louis Rams Offensive Coordinator)
Mike Nolan (Miami Dolphins Defensive Coordinator)
Clyde Christensen (Indianapolis Colts Offensive Coordinator)
Bill Callahan (American football) (Dallas Cowboys Offensive Coordinator)
Al Saunders (Oakland Raiders Senior Offensive Assistant)
Gunther Cunningham (Detroit Lions Defensive Coordinator and Assistant Head Coach)
Sean McDermott (Carolina Panthers Defensive Coordinator)
Mike McCoy (Denver Broncos Offensive Coordinator)
Marty Mornhinweg (Philadelphia Eagles Offensive Coordinator and Assistant Head Coach)
Jay Gruden (Cincinnati Bengals Offensive Coordinator)
Mike Singletary (Minnesota Vikings Linebackers Coach and Assistant Head Coach)
Edgar Bennett (Green Bay Packers Wide Receivers Coach)
Brad Childress (Cleveland Browns Offensive Coordinator)
Nolan Cromwell (Cleveland Browns Senior Offensive Assistant)
Mike Sherman (Miami Dolphins Offensive Coordinator)
Tom Heckert (Cleveland Browns General Manager)
Rick Spielman (Minnesota Vikings General Manager)
Chris Polian (Former Indianapolis Colts General Manager)
Howie Roseman (Philadelphia Eagles General Manager)
Mark Dominik (Tampa Bay Buccaneers General Manager)
Rick Smith (Houston Texans General Manager)
Mike Martz (Former Chicago Bears Offensive Coordinator and current analyst for NFL Network)
Chris Carpenter (St. Louis Cardinals Pitcher)
Pat Hentgen (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher)
Dave Steib (Former Toronto Blue Jays Pitcher)
Joe Nedney (Former San Francisco 49ers Placekicker)
Jon Gruden (ESPN Analyst for Monday Night Football)
 
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BruinVol said:
Anything is possible. The funny thing about slices post was it was exactly what I have been saying word for word about gruden. I have been slammed saying that we have met every demand of his and kept changing them. His post put the clear blame on gruden just like I have been since Friday.
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I took slice's post a little different. I took it as ut has now met every demand and its all on gruden. You bought in to the story that gruden kept coming back asking for after previous demands were met. Either could be true.
 
#8,797
#8,797
Are all the Strong faithful still trolling this thread this morning or are they hopping back on the train?
 
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BruinVol said:
If my info was right we certainly wouldn't expect him to change his mind back to us. A call might have been made saying "we have a candidate in place and we are officially offering him the job unless you give us reason not to". That's best case IMO
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Bruin - so you're saying he's out for sure based on your info
 
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hohenfelsvol said:
Don't estimate Hart's ability to screw this up. He's done a stellar job. And then you have the rest of the Vol fans hoping we fail so they can play the told you so card. Sickening.
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I am definitely no fan of Charlie Strong because I think he represents a return from terrible to mediocre. With that said, if he is our HC I hope he proves me wrong. I will be happy to admit I was wrong if this is the case.
 
#8,800
#8,800
Schefter just said he thinks Chip Kelly will be coaching in the NFL next season. Good news for us considering we gotta go to Eugene next year!
 
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