Official Jon Gruden Thread XVI

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This is interesting from an article.

"Multiple sources close to the Kentucky program said Jones initially accepted an offer to coach the Wildcats before turning them down in the end, and he cited potential interest from UT as at least part of the reason for that decision. Jones then interviewed with Purdue and Colorado but ultimately turned down both jobs — though the Denver Post initially reported that he’d accepted the Colorado job and had to issue a correction the following day."

According to the Cincy AD, Jones had not heard from UT until after he had got home from visiting Colorado.
 
Dear Coach Fulmer,

I am sorry for complaining about 8-1O wins a year. I'm really sorry for saying losing to Wyoming was the worst loss in Tennessee history. I take it all back. You were right, we were wrong. Please remove the curse.
 
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Have you guys check out the posts on the espn forum from the story UT hires BJ. We are the laughing stock of the country right now.
 
The OG's did nothing more than try to keep us informed as to what was going on, in a search that fraught with secrets. Hart was telling us nothing and we wanted to know. I salute :salute: the OG's for trying to keep us informed, and for keeping our spirits and hope alive. A double salute :salute: :salute: to Boro-Vol and any other OG's that have come on here after the fact and stood toe to toe with us in light of Gruden not being hired.

Like Butch Jones or not, he is our coach. If you are a fan of Tennessee, you will support him and put your faith in him that he can point UT in the right direction and possibly return us to glory. Let's stop belly aching, and support our Football team. I wanted Gruden as much as anybody, but at least Butch WANTS to be here. He turned down other offers to come here when others leveraged us to get a raise. Butch at least has a better resume than Dooley. Until he is fired and we search for another coach (hopefully not for a looooong time) we should support him, not condemn him.

Thank you to the OG's. Thank you to Tennessee Fans and the Football players that are going to give their ALL for TENNESSEE! (Still dislike Hart)... but go VOLS!
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This is the absolute best post I have ever seen on the Gruden Threads! VFL
 
I am hearing that big $$$$ donors were not behind this hire, hence the salary.....

Hopefully big $$$ donors will withhold any further capital contributions to UT and the Athletic Department. If they do, it will cripple the Athletic Department which is already in dire straits.

Screw Hart!

This. I love Tennessee and never thought it would come to this point, but if at all possible do not give the university or AD another dime. With Cheek and Hart running the show, Tennessee is an impostor right now. This isn't the University many of us have loved for years. Cheek and Hart have destroyed it. If there is no money coming in, a change will have to come. It is 100% obvious now that the fans, the players, even the coaches don't matter. I actually feel sorry for Butch Jones. He is walking into an absolute toxic mess. If you love your University, step back, watch it implode, and then we can build it back to former glory. Very sad day, lowest point in Tennessee history.
 
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The more I look into this the more I think Dave Hart is completely innocent.

This smells of Cheek handcuffing Hart.

He has to go.
 
Considering none of my wishes come true when it comes to this team, ima just watch and see who he brings. I hope like no one else that this coach proves me wrong and actually turns out to be a great coach and I will support him as long as he's here but its so hard to get excited right now. Maybe if he brings in a good DC we can be decent but I wanna be great again! I want the 90's to early 2000's Vols!! I just don't see this guy competing with Saban, Miles, Richt, Muschamp and Spurrier.

Might as well go all in bruh! Push it as far to the front as we can.
 
Guys, how is Butch as a recruiter? I know his first two stops weren't big schools but curious how he is on the recruiting trail.
 
Anything read on a message board should be taken with a grain of salt. That's just standard Internet protocol.

I don't really understand getting mad at people who post their "inside" information when it turns out wrong. Even getting mad at Yay4bray who smelled a lot like troll seems silly. It's a message board, trolls happen. Get a big grinder of rock salt and move on. Heck, even if the person posting believes what they're posting with 100% accuracy, the reader doesn't know where the information is coming from. Just because the poster trusts his source, it doesn't mean I would if I knew the source myself.

Even guys with something of a track record like LWS and Skeeter should have their information doled out with salt packets. It's just the nature of Internet and "sources" and what the information being shared is about. Most of the time it's about recruiting. Kids change their minds or even lie to coaches just so they don't have to say difficult things to people they may like or want to like them.

No need to get mad. And sorry for the book.
 
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All right, let's put this "at least he wants the job" nonsense to bed. Hell, I want the job and I'll do it for $500K and all the gameday swag I can wear. I can communicate and sell the program with the best of 'em.

Big freaking deal though, because I'm not qualified for anything besides running a Madden team. Jones is an upgrade from coaching a Madden game team, but is he ready to face off against Richt, Muschamp, Saban, Spurrier and even Franklin every freaking year, on the field and in recruits' living rooms? THAT'S the criteria! Wanting the damned job isn't enough, people!
 
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Just because this guys name is not Gruden doesn't mean he's a failure. I wanted JG like everyone else in here but damn give the guy a chance. He's won his conf 4 out of 6 years (& I don't care what conf it is) as a HC. I'll support any coach that will give their all for Tennessee until he gives me a reason not to & the rest of Volnation should do the same.
 
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This. I love Tennessee and never thought it would come to this point, but if at all possible do not give the university or AD another dime. With Cheek and Hart running the show, Tennessee is an impostor right now. This isn't the University many of us have loved for years. Cheek and Hart have destroyed it. If there is no money coming in, a change will have to come. It is 100% obvious now that the fans, the players, even the coaches don't matter. I actually feel sorry for Butch Jones. He is walking into an absolute toxic mess. If you love your University, step back, watch it implode, and then we can build it back to former glory. Very sad day, lowest point in Tennessee history.

This x 1,000,000
 
I was informed that they had finally gotten money for certain assistants and deal was all but done with Gruden. My source even identified certain coaches that Gruden had hand picked. Total Deal was $11 mill.

Screw UT!!!!

What do they say happened?
 
No, this isn't the lowest point in UT history. The lowest point will come next season when we go 4-8 and finish outside the top 30 in recruiting.
 
Guys, how is Butch as a recruiter? I know his first two stops weren't big schools but curious how he is on the recruiting trail.

In three years he's landed 0 five-star recruits, 3 four-star recruits, and Cincy's current 2013 recruits are all 3 stars or less.

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2013 Cincinnati Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2012 Cincinnati Commitments

Yahoo Sports: Rivals.com 2011 Cincinnati Commitments

http://rivals.yahoo.com/cincinnati/football/recruiting/commitments/2010
 
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