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Gzearl11 said:
Yea talk about a perfect storm for them. They got so many young up and coming players. They also can apparently sign everyone that’s good in FA
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Yep. It was still incredible what they did in that first year, almost winning a Cup, but the fact that they were a good team right out of the gate wasn't all that surprising. They rolled basically 4 second lines at you. They didn't have exceptionally high-end talent, but their 4th liners were basically second line players.
 
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05_never_again said:
Yep. It was still incredible what they did in that first year, almost winning a Cup, but the fact that they were a good team right out of the gate wasn't all that surprising. They rolled basically 4 second lines at you. They didn't have exceptionally high-end talent, but their 4th liners were basically second line players.
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Now they have that top line talent with mark stone and max pacioretty. If you were the GM today what would be your moves for the predators?
 
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Gzearl11 said:
Now they have that top line talent with mark stone and max pacioretty. If you were the GM today what would be your moves for the predators?
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I don't know. As much as we bitch and complain on here and might act like we know what the problems are, they are in a tough spot. I wouldn't want that job.

With the exception of Forsberg and Josi, I'd start letting it be known to other GMs that I was willing to seriously consider offers on just about anybody. I guess I'd start there - just test the market and see what you can get. The problem is that most of your assets that have considerable value (Duchene, Ellis, Johansen) aren't guys that other teams are going to jump over themselves to take on because of a combination of their age + the contract. This team's core was locked in a few years ago, they've underachieved, and it doesn't seem like there is an easy way to get it back on track.

They could deal Granlund at the deadline as a rental to a contending team (pending UFA). Maybe you could get something for Ekholm (only 2 years left at $3.75m). Other than that, I don't know. If the Preds start selling, I'm sure they will get a bunch of questions from teams asking if Forsberg is available. He's the team's best player, is only 26, is basically the only guy who isn't underachieving, and only has 2 years left on his contract (he could be a quasi-rental for a contending team). I have a feeling that would be an extremely unpopular trade even if they were overwhelmed by what was being offered in return.
 
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05_never_again said:
I don't know. As much as we bitch and complain on here and might act like we know what the problems are, they are in a tough spot. I wouldn't want that job.

With the exception of Forsberg and Josi, I'd start letting it be known to other GMs that I was willing to seriously consider offers on just about anybody. I guess I'd start there - just test the market and see what you can get. The problem is that most of your assets that have considerable value (Duchene, Ellis, Johansen) aren't guys that other teams are going to jump over themselves to take on because of a combination of their age + the contract. This team's core was locked in a few years ago, they've underachieved, and it doesn't seem like there is an easy way to get it back on track.

They could deal Granlund at the deadline as a rental to a contending team (pending UFA). Maybe you could get something for Ekholm (only 2 years left at $3.75m). Other than that, I don't know. If the Preds start selling, I'm sure they will get a bunch of questions from teams asking if Forsberg is available. He's the team's best player, is only 26, is basically the only guy who isn't underachieving, and only has 2 years left on his contract (he could be a quasi-rental for a contending team). I have a feeling that would be an extremely unpopular trade even if they were overwhelmed by what was being offered in return.
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Same idea actually. I ask just to kinda keep this thread going. I wish more action would come to this thread. I love to talk hockey even if the Preds are on a bad streak right now
 
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trade deadline is April 12. With COVID regulations I expect to see a bunch of trades happening before then. But do we keep Hynes and Poile to get us to that point. And if we fire Poile and Hynes, do we really become sellers
 
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RollinVol said:
trade deadline is April 12. With COVID regulations I expect to see a bunch of trades happening before then. But do we keep Hynes and Poile to get us to that point. And if we fire Poile and Hynes, do we really become sellers
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I think I read where this draft is extremely weak on top tier talent so I would trade for prospects and build around our future goalie
 
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RollinVol said:
So if we trade. Do we trade for draft picks or prospects for the rebuild?
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I was reading a bleacher report article earlier today ( I know not the best source) But it basically said the Preds should try to rebuild through the draft. The article said Stamkos was the last #1 pick to win a Stanley Cup and it took a long while. They pointed to Edmonton who had 4 in a row, and while are good have only won one playoffs series, and pointed to Minnesota and New Jersey as building through the draft and getting stuck kinda in purgatory. Lastly it said the teams we would probably be trading with are probably only going to be able to give mid/late round picks anyways. Then pointed to finding Foresberg as a reason to rebuild through trades. Lastly, the article said a team like the Hurricanes who are in win now mode and try to snag a solid prospect from them.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
I was reading a bleacher report article earlier today ( I know not the best source) But it basically said the Preds should try to rebuild through the draft. The article said Stamkos was the last #1 pick to win a Stanley Cup and it took a long while. They pointed to Edmonton who had 4 in a row, and while are good have only won one playoffs series, and pointed to Minnesota and New Jersey as building through the draft and getting stuck kinda in purgatory. Lastly it said the teams we would probably be trading with are probably only going to be able to give mid/late round picks anyways. Then pointed to finding Foresberg as a reason to rebuild through trades. Lastly, the article said a team like the Hurricanes who are in win now mode and try to snag a solid prospect from them.
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I would like this. With our current trajectory I think we finish with a top 10 pick somewhere between5-9. I think we have the goalie for the future in the one we just drafted. We need to build ourselves back up defensively. We were known to have a great defensive team! We got away from that and started to make trades for offensive players that haven’t worked out.
 
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RollinVol said:
So if we trade. Do we trade for draft picks or prospects for the rebuild?
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Draft picks are typically many years out from starting. Prospects may be the best route but you can't sell it in either direction completely.

As others have said the Predators are in a very tough spot. Many of their assets are in the wrong side of age/contracts. The need to sell heavily but I would prefer the determine the coach and GM future before doing so, otherwise the next guy may have the wrong guys for his system.
 
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Gzearl11 said:
It would be so hard to let him go. Only real offensive weapon outside of josi, he’s only 26 and on a team friendly deal.
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That's the Catch 22...your most attractive assets are, well, your most attractive assets. It goes both ways. He's your best player and you don't want to lose him, but for that very same reason he'd bring you the biggest possible return in a trade. Yes, he's our only real offensive weapon, but this team stinks as currently constituted. You can't expect to trade older players with big contracts and get a nice return.

Other than Forsberg and Josi, I think the only guys who would generate some interest are Ekholm and Granlund. I think that we're stuck with Johansen, Duchene, Ellis, etc. unless we're willing to eat a lot of their salary to move them.
 
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05_never_again said:
That's the Catch 22...your most attractive assets are, well, your most attractive assets. It goes both ways. He's your best player and you don't want to lose him, but for that very same reason he'd bring you the biggest possible return in a trade. Yes, he's our only real offensive weapon, but this team stinks as currently constituted. You can't expect to trade older players with big contracts and get a nice return.

Other than Forsberg and Josi, I think the only guys who would generate some interest are Ekholm and Granlund. I think that we're stuck with Johansen, Duchene, Ellis, etc. unless we're willing to eat a lot of their salary to move them.
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Yea those 3 contracts seem like dead weight right now. We really need to do something to try and get them going. I don’t know enough about hockey to talk offensive philosophy and strategy but what we are doing just isn’t working
 
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Also - another thing to consider re: a potential Forsberg trade...how often do you see teams built around wingers? Washington, I guess? It is hard due to the nature of the position. Forsberg is an awesome, awesome player, but do you build a team around him?
 
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Can someone explain how Askarov's contract situation works? His KHL contract has 2 more years. Once that is over, do the Preds have exclusive rights to negotiate with him or something? Not that he likely would want to, but could he change his mind at that point and re-sign with a KHL team?
 
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Johansen & Duchene will be left unprotected for the expansion draft.

Granlund and Haula are cheap rentals for a contender. They'll be moved but we won't get more than draft picks.

Unless we could get Josi to remove his NMC, Ekholm will be left unprotected for the expansion draft so he'll traded prior and he should bring a very nice return.

I just can't see us moving Forsberg. The return would have to be HUGE.
 
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