Ohio State in More Trouble (merged)

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orange parmejohn said:
dont know how to link from my phone but clay travis is bllwing up twitter saying tressell is finished. dont know if his opnion carries weight or not.
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Travis repeatedly swore Cam Newton was cooked too, and look how that turned out. He doesn't know a damn thing about anything.

I don't know how it'll play out, but I'll predict that suspending Tressel for two MAC patsies isn't going to get there.
 
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clay travis is blowing up twitter saying Tressell is finished. as i stated in other thread, i dont know if his opinion carries any weight.
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Ohio State athletic director Gene Smith said he never seriously considered firing Tressel for violating his contract, which specifies that he must immediately report any -- the word is underlined in the contract -- information which pertains to violations of NCAA, Big Ten or Ohio State bylaws and rules.

"Wherever we end up, Jim Tressel is our football coach," Smith said. "He is our coach, and we trust him implicitly."
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Jim Tressel gets two-game ban for NCAA violation - ESPN
 
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yoyoyoyo said:
OSU to NCAA: Bottom line, violation was more a matter of indecisiveness "as opposed to blatant disregard of NCAA legislation."
35 minutes ago via TweetDeck .

Was not until OSU legal counsel found e-mail strings in Tressel's computer in January that he had to confess prior knowledge.
37 minutes ago via TweetDeck .

Also, Tressel was specifically asked in December of his knowledge of these players' activities. Hemmed and hawed, denied he got specific tip
38 minutes ago via TweetDeck .

OSU says Tressel signed compliance form in Sept. saying he had no knowledge of any possible violations..... 39 minutes ago via TweetDeck

- Ken Gordon (Columbus Dispatch)
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This. He absolutely lied to the school and to ncaa investigators. The exact thing espn and most others have been hammering the crap out of Pearl for. Pearl has been verbally tied down and beaten. To top it all off, Tressels' lie caused players that should have been ineligable to play and beat teams they probably shouldn't have, altering the course of history.
Two games for that????:crazy:
When football season starts they better be showing time lines and discussing the situation thoughout EVERY osu game.
 
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You all realize that incriminating emails exist and NCAA hasn't even spoke yet? Takes time. People were saying USC got away with this stuff for 2 years, they hadn't though, it just takes time. The emails are going to sink them. He even lied in the presser, what kind of coach gives a presser to admit wrongdoing but leave out big details? Oh, wait...
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Will their games from last year be vacated? If so "A State University in the City of Columbus, OH" will still be winless against SEC competition if only technically.
 
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Let me get this straight. OSU has 375 secondary violations in 9 years - 42 per year. We have 6 in one season with the Liar Surfer Dude, get investigated by the NCAA, and get blasted all over the country as a dirty program. is that about the gist of it? Disgusting.

And universities actually voluntarily belong and pay fees to the NCAA? Why?! It is obvious they are as corrupt as it gets. If they self reported those 42 every year did someone stick their head up and say, "Hey boss-this OSU list is getting kinda long!" If they did and nothing happened, you would think a whistle blower or two would have wanted to ring the bell to make some money doing interviews, books, and movies of how they brought the NCAA down. I know - wishful thinking.

Now we find out Mr. Vested Rogers knew of last fall's shenanigans 8 months before disclosing it. Some say that since he admitted it when caught it's not as bad as Pearl not admitting it at first, then setting the record straight later. Bullcrap! He knowingly withheld the multiple violations for 8 months. By not saying anything he is snubbing his nose at the rules. Not following written procedures and regs of the NCAA and the university that he had been trained on and led training on for decades is inexcusible.

So it took Yahoo's sportswriters to unearth this? Why? There was enough smoke coming from it last year for the NCAA to get to the truth. That is unless they are corrupt in which case you suspend a few players for 5 games only - right?
 
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mchandl7 said:
Will their games from last year be vacated? If so "A State University in the City of Columbus, OH" will still be winless against SEC competition if only technically.
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Actually, the bowl game would be the one win they should keep. The ostensibly ineligible players didn't participate.
 
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Vols4us said:
Let me get this straight. OSU has 375 secondary violations in 9 years - 42 per year. We have 6 in one season with the Liar Surfer Dude, get investigated by the NCAA, and get blasted all over the country as a dirty program. is that about the gist of it? Disgusting.

And universities actually voluntarily belong and pay fees to the NCAA? Why?! It is obvious they are as corrupt as it gets. If they self reported those 42 every year did someone stick their head up and say, "Hey boss-this OSU list is getting kinda long!" If they did and nothing happened, you would think a whistle blower or two would have wanted to ring the bell to make some money doing interviews, books, and movies of how they brought the NCAA down. I know - wishful thinking.

Now we find out Mr. Vested Rogers knew of last fall's shenanigans 8 months before disclosing it. Some say that since he admitted it when caught it's not as bad as Pearl not admitting it at first, then setting the record straight later. Bullcrap! He knowingly withheld the multiple violations for 8 months. By not saying anything he is snubbing his nose at the rules. Not following written procedures and regs of the NCAA and the university that he had been trained on and led training on for decades is inexcusible.

So it took Yahoo's sportswriters to unearth this? Why? There was enough smoke coming from it last year for the NCAA to get to the truth. That is unless they are corrupt in which case you suspend a few players for 5 games only - right?
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Agree! This is much worse than Pearl but this is early in game. Will be interesting to see media's coverage, especially next season. Still think he won't survive this and OSU will get hit. Have to.
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GoBigOrangeVols said:
Thats understandable. I don't really know what the balance is...off campus recruiting is invaluable, but coaching and winning the games is the overall goal?
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Not being able to recruit off campus negatively affects the talent level that will be on the team in future seasons. Missing two games that they should easily win without their coach only affects his reputation.
 
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Somebody correct me if Im wrong please. But didnt a story break on yahoo sports or ny times or something right around the time of the Sugar Bowl about Terrell Pryor and some possible illegal benefits that included rental cars or something? If so and the NCAA discovers this Ohio St will get the hammer! Oh wait nevermind i forgot,like I said they are "THE" Blohio St.
 
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If the NCAA comes down on us with a big hammer and we get all these sanctions and lose our coach and that team up north gets a slap on the wrist, is there any way for the sec or UT to appeal and bring up this case?
 
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ESPN just said Tressels violation is a 10.5 on a scale of 1-10. ESPN usually has it right. They also say that the ncaa is not taking this lightly and will be salivating when it gets to their committee. To think about it only the Newton's have gotten off clean in all these years of reported ncaa violations. They are just gangster with theirs. But it looks like Tressel's goose is cooked. They will have to give up the 2010 season and OSU will probably be hit like USC. They made it very clear that this wasn't an assistant that got busted this is the head coach.
 
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hatvol96 said:
They think a two game suspension and a financial tap on the wrist is enough for knowingly playing ineligible players? Sooner or later, somebody's going to wise up and realize the Mark Emmert led 'AA isn't fooling around.
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Mr Emmert has had a very busy time here recently....good time to make a ' statement' I think....OSU anyone?
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Agree! This is much worse than Pearl but this is early in game. Will be interesting to see media's coverage, especially next season. Still think he won't survive this and OSU will get hit. Have to.
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Wouldn't say this is worse than Pearl (mainly because of the issue of trying to persuade a recruits father to change his story). But it is awfully close to being equal.
 
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Very interesting story. Gives lots to talk about, but I am really not overly interested in Ohio State football. My primary concern is that CDD and staff maintain the integrity and commitment to Tennessee that they have exhibited thus far. Any by the way, who cares if ESPN hates us? I certainly don't. ESPN has absolutely no control, sway, etc. over our success on the field. They may report unfavorable things about us - thus giving some people a bad perception of us - but if we win on the field, WHO CARES ABOUT ESPN?
 
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#246
Things may change in the morning but ESPN is all but ignoring this. I imagine it's because they didn't break the story. They've treated them pretty good so far.
 
#247
#247
a typical slap on the wrist for the crooked tressel and ohio state. A bunch of players taking money, he knows about it, and he gets suspended for 2 creampuff games and a small fine that he can pay with loose change? Great stuff.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Actually, the bowl game would be the one win they should keep. The ostensibly ineligible players didn't participate.
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Of course, they never would have made it there without 11 wins on the backs of those ineligible players.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I remember around the time OSU won the national title multiple guys admitted to taking money at OSU, and the NCAA found nothing. If they escaped that, I think they may be able to escape this.
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Maybe it was the 1 who did the instant replay in his head & threw the pass interference flag 30 seconds later. I didn't even think a pass interference was reviewable. Miami got hosed.
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