Ole miss has two unranked losses

#76
#76
If we played Bama in Tuscaloosa we would have lost, if we played UGA in Knoxville we would have won.
GA's injury laden roster was set up for them to have an excuseable home loss against us. and we should have. Maybe the diff was the two calls that kept the game in GA's corner. We folded after those calls instead of digging in. And our offense went home during half time. We've only broke 30 once in conference play. So we either have personnel issues, or coaching issues.
 
#77
#77
Tennessee got to play Oklahoma, Arkansas, Miss State, and Kentucky. That is 4 teams with losing records.

Tennessee also played Florida and Vandy who are near (Florida still needs 1 more win) or plan to be around .500.

Tennessee's only major ranked opponents have been Alabama and Georgia. We are in the same boat as Ole Miss.
Gentle reminder that Arkansas is 5-5 and plays La Tech this weekend and finishes with a winnable game against Missouri.

Another gentle reminder that Vandy and LSU have the same record(6-4) and play each other this weekend. One of those teams beat Bama while the other was blown out by them at home.

Define major ranked opponents. If you are referring to top 10, Tennessee has Bama and UGA while Ole Miss has Georgia.
 
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#78
Committee will choose Bama over Us because of Bama bias. Its what we get for our offense not passing the eye test in many of our games. We beat bama, but didnt look good doing it. Should have been ahead of them by multiple scores going into the half. That is our only good win on our resume. Bama went into a ranked LSU game at night and beat the absolute breaks off them. Doesnt help them that Florida beat LSU soundly on Saturday, but LSU will still be ranked come Tuesday night. We need Florida to beat Ole Miss, Texas A&M to beat Texas, and Ohio State to beat the breaks off Indiana. But given the outcome of everything, Tennessee will be the first team out of the playoffs with Bama an 11 or 12 seed.
As it stands we landed at the 10 spot, and that is fair all things considered. So, we just need to win out, and not get in the SEC game for a ptoential 3rd loss. The tie breaker for team 2 in the SEC game will be a head spinner.
 
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#79
I get that but I am giving you what the playoff committee is thinking. The UK loss was almost 2 months ago now so it is probably out of sight and out of mind. I do think it may come up once push comes to shove and we are at the point when we are truly selecting teams.

You and I have NO Idea what the playoff committee is thinking. You are listening to ESPN and the media playing politics.

What I can guarantee is that if Georgia, Ole Miss, A&M or Bama lose another game and Tennessee wins out - Tennessee will jump the team that incurs the loss in the ranking because of the 3rd loss. That is what happens with "late season" losses.
 
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#80
Gentle reminder that Arkansas is 5-5 and plays La Tech this weekend and finishes with a winnable game against Missouri.

Another gentle reminder that Vandy and LSU have the same record(6-4) and play each other this weekend. One of those teams beat Bama while the other was blown out by them at home.

Define major ranked opponents. If you are referring to top 10, Tennessee has Bama and UGA while Ole Miss has Georgia.

"Wins". Honestly, I think it is more about recency bias and the fact that Ole Miss beat Georgia by 10+ points.

Basically, because Tennessee has been squeaking by teams rather than blowing them out is probably a culprit. I do think that as the season plays out, things will change.
 
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As it stands we landed at the 10 spot, and that is fair all things considered. So, we just need to win out, and not get in the SEC game for a ptoential 3rd loss. The tie breaker for team 2 in the SEC game will be a head spinner.
doesnt matter, we will get pushed out by the conference winners and some conference losers.
 
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You and I have NO Idea what the playoff committee is thinking. You are listening to ESPN and the media playing politics.

What I can guarantee is that if Georgia, Ole Miss, A&M or Bama lose another game and Tennessee wins out - Tennessee will jump the team that incurs the loss in the ranking because of the 3rd loss. That is what happens with "late season" losses.

There is a playoff ranking that shows what they are thinking and also, whether you admit it or not, these committees (same with March Madness) communicate with and are influenced by the major sports media.
 
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Pick a better word, then. A “sound” beating is what Georgia did to us after the first quarter.
So, losing to Georgia by 14 after they scored a late TD to put it away is getting beaten soundly but winning by 10 while running out the clock inside the opponents 20 yard line is barely winning?
 
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#84
So, losing to Georgia by 14 after they scored a late TD to put it away is getting beaten soundly but winning by 10 while running out the clock inside the opponents 20 yard line is barely winning?
UGA went on a 31-7 run in 3 Quarters. Thats a sound beating.
 
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doesnt matter, we will get pushed out by the conference winners and some conference losers.
Unless those games go the way they should. Both B1G teams likely playing for their titleare already top 12 and will stay. no effect. ACC and B12 won't be too much an impact. The teams they have in the current 12 are low on the pole, so if SMU and BYU win their conference for instance, Miami and Boise will drop out by losing those games. Just be a swap. TAM can muddle things a bit if they beat TX in their game and get in the SEC game. SEC is the only conference that may can bump us out. But, if we win out like we should we will be looking to gain a spot or two maybe and stay in the 12, cause teams ahead of us still have head to head coming.
 
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It is crazy how our FANS dig deep to find a reason to discredit the team they supposedly support.
My favorite game to play is giving more legitimacy to what we think would happen in a hypothetical scenario than to what actually happens in real life. An alternate version of this game consists of assuming lopsided negative results leading up to a game, then largely discounting the actual results based on how we think a team looked while winning said game.
 
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Unless those games go the way they should. Both B1G teams likely playing for their titleare already top 12 and will stay. no effect. ACC and B12 won't be too much an impact. The teams they have in the current 12 are low on the pole, so if SMU and BYU win their conference for instance, Miami and Boise will drop out by losing those games. Just be a swap. TAM can muddle things a bit if they beat TX in their game and get in the SEC game. SEC is the only conference that may can bump us out. But, if we win out like we should we will be looking to gain a spot or two maybe and stay in the 12, cause teams ahead of us still have head to head coming.
a 10-2 Miami may not get dropped out for losing a Conference Title game. Media making a huge push for teams that lose the title game to not get punished for it.
 
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#89
UGA went on a 31-7 run in 3 Quarters. Thats a sound beating.
So, we gave them a sound beating in the first quarter by going on a 10-0 run? Did Alabama give Georgia a sound beating because they went on a 30-7 run in the first two quarters or did Georgia give Alabama a sound beating by going on a 27-11 run the last two quarters, even though they lost the game? I'm sorry, these partial game results are difficult for me to keep up with.
 
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#90
Whether we looked good or not, the games still are in the left column. That's where it should make a difference.
I kind of agree, but kind of don’t. It’s the committees job to put the best 12 teams in. Not the teams with the prettiest record, but the 12 teams that make for the best, most competitive CFP. We use that argument when we talk about other teams not playing the schedule we do. It’s gonna go both ways. We have halves of games where we look like we can’t spell football, let alone play it. We went 3 games with 0 points in first half I believe? Looked lost against Georgia second half. If we get left out it’s bc we don’t pass the eye test some games and you can’t blame them. If we struggle at Vandy we may really be hurting.
 
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#91
So, we gave them a sound beating in the first quarter by going on a 10-0 run? Did Alabama give Georgia a sound beating because they went on a 30-7 run in the first two quarters or did Georgia give Alabama a sound beating by going on a 27-11 run the last two quarters, even though they lost the game? I'm sorry, these partial game results are difficult for me to keep up with.
I see where you are coming from. But people on this committee dont watch football. They go off what the media is saying. So a 31-7 run looks alot worse than the 31-17 final score.
 
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#92
a 10-2 Miami may not get dropped out for losing a Conference Title game. Media making a huge push for teams that lose the title game to not get punished for it.
Technically, I do agree with that. But, there could be some anomolies if said loser was already low in the 12. But, if everyone in the conference finishes their season properly, it may be SMU and Clemson in the title game and with SMU ranking the highest of the 2 at 13, the winner will bump someone, and Miami and Boise sit at 11/12. Currently Miami is highest ranking ACC team at 11.
 
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Technically, I do agree with that. But, if everyone in the conference finishes their season properly, it may be SMU and Clemson in the title game and with SMU ranking the highest of the 2 at 13, the winner will bump someone, and Miami and Boise sit at 11/12.
True, but we have to see where the committee ranks us on Tuesday night. If its anywhere past 13 or 14.. you can kiss the playoffs bye bye. They dropped UGA from 3 to 11. So Vols would be 15ish
 
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#94
And we beat Alabama and going to beat Vanderbilt so we can use that argument against Alabama

Yeah but that's kind of why your original point has a counterpoint. Everyone in this argument has a point. It's a mess. That's why at the end of the day, even with an expanded playoffs your only 100% lock to make it in the playoffs (and still not true for everyone) is to win all your games. We beat Arkansas or Georgia and we're not having this conversation. I get there are still arguments but the point is take care of business and you don't leave it up to someone else's opinion.

I remember so many being like an expanded playoff would make the regular season meaningless....rofl yeah that aged well.
 
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True, but we have to see where the committee ranks us on Tuesday night. If its anywhere past 13 or 14.. you can kiss the playoffs bye bye. They dropped UGA from 3 to 11. So Vols would be 15ish
GA rebounded and played well compared to the UM game. They will push them back up as high as they can explain away. We're getting a lot of love for our D, but the performance of our O in conference will be a drag. There is still some things that can happen the lat two weeks. If we stay insode 14/15, I think we may still have a shot slipping in. Hopefully, that being a road loss at GA and a strong 1st half will carry some consideration. However, I don't agree with the pecking order on the Bama, GA, UM, UT AP rankings right now. We should be in front of UM.
 
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GA rebounded and played well compared to the UM game. They will push them back up as high as they can explain away. We're getting a lot of love for our D, but the performance of our O in conference will be a drag. There is still some things that can happen the lat two weeks. If we stay insode 14/15, I think we may still have a shot slipping in. Hopefully, that being a road loss at GA and a strong 1st half will carry some consideration. However, I don't agree with the pecking order on the Bama, GA, UM, UT AP rankings right now. We should be in front of UM.
Seems they are going of eye test more than SOS and losses. Kirby said it best post game on saturday. Who knows what the Committee is looking for. But it is hard to go on the road and win in the SEC.
 
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"Wins". Honestly, I think it is more about recency bias and the fact that Ole Miss beat Georgia by 10+ points.

Basically, because Tennessee has been squeaking by teams rather than blowing them out is probably a culprit. I do think that as the season plays out, things will change.
I do agree with you on the recency bias aspect and how it will be viewed by the committee. Who really knows, though. The way this committee has ranked teams from one week to the next has had no consistency nor set criteria. It seems they basically just place teams where they want, then create their criteria on a case by case basis to justify their rankings.
 
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#98
If Indiana loses, I think they have a hard time explaining Ole Miss and Indiana. If quality of wins outweigh quality losses, then Indiana will have nothing. If quality losses should be discounted then we should be above Ole Miss
 
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#99
Seems they are going of eye test more than SOS and losses. Kirby said it best post game on saturday. Who knows what the Committee is looking for. But it is hard to go on the road and win in the SEC.
Maybe they are going more on eye test...who really knows? In their first ranking, we were behind Penn State apparently because their loss was better than ours and they have a good tight end. In their second ranking, two teams jumped us because they had "big" wins against .500 or worse teams.
 
True, but we have to see where the committee ranks us on Tuesday night. If its anywhere past 13 or 14.. you can kiss the playoffs bye bye. They dropped UGA from 3 to 11. So Vols would be 15ish
When looking at the teams currently in the top 25, it is very difficult to come up with any criteria to place anyone beyond A&M(15th) ahead of us this week and teams like A&M, SMU and BYU take a bit of a stretch to justify. I think the absolute worst case scenario would have us at 13 tomorrow which is really not much different than anything up to 10 since the seeding would still have us as the first team out.
 

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