Ole miss has two unranked losses

[GVF]

Seems they are going of eye test more than SOS and losses. Kirby said it best post game on saturday. Who knows what the Committee is looking for. But it is hard to go on the road and win in the SEC.

And he was 100% correct on both. And he may not say it out loud, but his body language and comments seem to know when he got a home win he should have lost by all accounts. He wasn't doing the typical Kirby dance post game on the mic. He had a very thin roster in skill positions for this game, and if not for Bobo calling a fantastic game for them, plus a couple ref calls, he knew this could have been a loss. But, he did have the home field.

 

[Cartervol]

More than a few times.

Yeah I know. I was being about as optimistic as I can be..

 

[vol_sec]

GA rebounded and played well compared to the UM game. They will push them back up as high as they can explain away. We're getting a lot of love for our D, but the performance of our O in conference will be a drag. There is still some things that can happen the lat two weeks. If we stay insode 14/15, I think we may still have a shot slipping in. Hopefully, that being a road loss at GA and a strong 1st half will carry some consideration. However, I don't agree with the pecking order on the Bama, GA, UM, UT AP rankings right now. We should be in front of UM.

Yeah, being the last to lose of the 2 loss SEC teams hurts UT. UM lost at home. If you just compared without when the losses occurred, I think UM would be below UT based on results. UGA had another game against UT to recover from their blowout loss or they would be at the bottom. I'm not sure when UGA got pushed to November, but it makes more sense with how the rankings just uses who lost last, to move the UGA back up to October, because timing matters. Also Texas, if they lose to Texas A&M, the would have zero wins against ranked opponents. I have no idea how they would rank them above UT, but since they are #3, they probably do not fall below UT. There are way too many top 10 teams in the playoff rankings without a win against a ranked opponent.

 

[GVF]

Yeah, being the last to lose of the 2 loss SEC teams hurts UT. UM lost at home. If you just compared without when the losses occurred, I think UM would be below UT based on results. UGA had another game against UT to recover from their blowout loss or they would be at the bottom. I'm not sure when UGA got pushed to November, but it makes more sense with how the rankings just uses who lost last, to move the UGA back up to October, because timing matters. Also Texas, if they lose to Texas A&M, the would have zero wins against ranked opponents. I have no idea how they would rank them above UT, but since they are #3, they probably do not fall below UT. There are way too many top 10 teams in the playoff rankings without a win against a ranked opponent.

spot on.

 

[901 Orange]

I wouldn’t call a 28-18 win over a team we were favored to beat by 17.5 a “sound” beating.

17.5 ain't sound that's a blowout. If I win by 10 it's a sound victory. If I win by 17 or more it's a beat down

 

[Hulavol]

It is crazy how our FANS dig deep to find a reason to discredit the team they supposedly support.

They just mad the Vols lost, and probably lost money on it too.

 

[Col_Cathcart]

UGA went on a 31-7 run in 3 Quarters. Thats a sound beating.

I’m confused. Are there really only 3 quarters in a game

 

[aRmo]

I’m confused. Are there really only 3 quarters in a game

Your argument on this forum is sound. But it doesnt reach in the walls of the committee. Alot of what the media is pushing does. And SEC Final, ESPN, GET UP and the rest of the bias media is pushing that UGA went on a fantastic 31-7 run to beat us at home. THAT reaches the committee.

 

[newyorkvol]

Yeah, being the last to lose of the 2 loss SEC teams hurts UT. UM lost at home. If you just compared without when the losses occurred, I think UM would be below UT based on results. UGA had another game against UT to recover from their blowout loss or they would be at the bottom. I'm not sure when UGA got pushed to November, but it makes more sense with how the rankings just uses who lost last, to move the UGA back up to October, because timing matters. Also Texas, if they lose to Texas A&M, the would have zero wins against ranked opponents. I have no idea how they would rank them above UT, but since they are #3, they probably do not fall below UT. There are way too many top 10 teams in the playoff rankings without a win against a ranked opponent.

Could you imagine if Ole Miss only had the overtime lsu loss, then beat uga to go to 8-1 and THEN lost to UK at home in November? They wouldn’t even be in the discussion.

 

[Col_Cathcart]

Your argument on this forum is sound. But it doesnt reach in the walls of the committee. Alot of what the media is pushing does. And SEC Final, ESPN, GET UP and the rest of the bias media is pushing that UGA went on a fantastic 31-7 run to beat us at home. THAT reaches the committee.

I’m not sure what your goal is here. Neither of us knows what the committee values or what they will do. It seems like you’re wanting to play devils advocate but it comes off like you’re brainstorming ways to pump up Ole Miss that even you don’t believe in and then pointing at the committee whenever someone pokes a hole in the reasoning.

 

[aRmo]

I’m not sure what your goal is here. Neither of us knows what the committee values or what they will do. It seems like you’re wanting to play devils advocate but it comes off like you’re brainstorming ways to pump up Ole Miss that even you don’t believe in and then pointing at the committee whenever someone pokes a hole in the reasoning.

I was just commenting on the UGA game. I havent said anything about Ole Miss. You are right, we dont know what the committee values, what i was saying is UGA did beat us soundly, wasnt even close in the 2nd half. lots of Undisciplined football played by UT with no passing game. Which allows the Media to push the 31-7 narrative to the committee. We dont know what the committee will do with it, but the Media is absolutely not helping our case.

 

[hUTch2002]

And the eye test said Kentucky beat Ole Miss AT HOME. Ole Miss literally gave that team their ONLY conference win. I’m sorry but as impressive as the Georgia win was, the Kentucky loss was just as equally unimpressive so those cancel each other out. Meaning Ole Miss should be the odd man out right now. Could you imagine Ohio State or Oregon losing to Maryland or Purdue? Because that’s exactly what happened to Ole Miss.

We have to let the season finish so we have complete resumes to compare. Maybe Ole Miss craps the bed against UF. Maybe we blow Vandy out to help boost our road resume. It’ll be hard enough to compare if both are 10-2 but right now we have incomplete data so it’s almost impossible to compare.

 

[volbound1700]

Your argument on this forum is sound. But it doesnt reach in the walls of the committee. Alot of what the media is pushing does. And SEC Final, ESPN, GET UP and the rest of the bias media is pushing that UGA went on a fantastic 31-7 run to beat us at home. THAT reaches the committee.

Georgia has the #1 schedule in the nation and it isn't close. They played Alabama, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas, and Clemson (keep in mind that Clemson is considered a big win). They have the strongest argument out of any 2-loss teams to be in.

 

[Vol8188]

They beat both of the teams that beat us soundly.

We also beat both teams that beat them. It’s a wash

 

[aRmo]

Georgia has the #1 schedule in the nation and it isn't close. They played Alabama, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Texas, and Clemson (keep in mind that Clemson is considered a big win). They have the strongest argument out of any 2-loss teams to be in.

Yep, Bama beat 2 ranked teams atm. UGA and LSU. One was an absolute beat down, the other was 1 half of a beat down. Ole Miss beat UGA soundly at home and Carolina on the road. But lost to Kentucky and ranked LSU by 3 on the road. Their wins are as good as TNs if not alittle bit better. Carolina and UGA will be their strongest wins atm. IMO they deserve to be in over Tennessee. The two teams TN lost two Ole Miss beat by a combine score of 91-41. The only bad bad loss they have is Kentucky.

 

[volbound1700]

Yep, Bama beat 2 ranked teams atm. UGA and LSU. One was an absolute beat down, the other was 1 half of a beat down. Ole Miss beat UGA soundly at home and Carolina on the road. But lost to Kentucky and ranked LSU by 3 on the road. Their wins are as good as TNs if not alittle bit better. Carolina and UGA will be their strongest wins atm. IMO they deserve to be in over Tennessee. The two teams TN lost two Ole Miss beat by a combine score of 91-41. The only bad bad loss they have is Kentucky.

LSU isn't ranked anymore so Alabama has only beating UGA.

If we use that logic, Tennessee beat ranked Oklahoma and NC State.

 

[aRmo]

LSU isn't ranked anymore so Alabama has only beating UGA.

If we use that logic, Tennessee beat ranked Oklahoma and NC State.

LSU is still ranked in the playoff ranking until Tuesday night. Thats why i said ranked LSU. no other logic is necessary. Im hoping with all of you that the committee dont absolutely screw us on Tuesday night.

 

[coachmilo13]

Kinda goes both ways. Ole Miss lost to Kentucky who we beat soundly. They're other loss was to LSU. We beat Fla & Bama who both beat LSU soundly.

I like the sound of that!

 

[SamuraiVol74]

The reality of the situation right now (as in present day, so forget about preseason rankings and rankings before now), the Vols have only 1 win against a ranked opponent and haven't looked well in a number of games despite wins. The Arkansas loss hurts far more than the Georgia loss. What I keep reminding myself (that gets absolutely no consideration from the committees) is that the SEC teams cannibalize themselves because the conference is just that good. Not a person on God's green earth can convince me that if you moved Ohio State, Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame, Boise State, and some of the other higher ranked teams into the SEC, they would all wear 2 or more losses and some of them might struggle to break even. That isn't hyperbole. That is fact. And for this reason, we legit have SEC teams that cannot "make the grade" to get into the playoff picture because they carry 2-4 losses against the lesser conferences carrying 0-1.

That is my opinion.

 

[utvols74]

The reality of the situation right now (as in present day, so forget about preseason rankings and rankings before now), the Vols have only 1 win against a ranked opponent and haven't looked well in a number of games despite wins. The Arkansas loss hurts far more than the Georgia loss. What I keep reminding myself (that gets absolutely no consideration from the committees) is that the SEC teams cannibalize themselves because the conference is just that good. Not a person on God's green earth can convince me that if you moved Ohio State, Penn State, Indiana, Notre Dame, Boise State, and some of the other higher ranked teams into the SEC, they would all wear 2 or more losses and some of them might struggle to break even. That isn't hyperbole. That is fact. And for this reason, we legit have SEC teams that cannot "make the grade" to get into the playoff picture because they carry 2-4 losses against the lesser conferences carrying 0-1.

That is my opinion.

....as I've been saying, besides $ to E$PN for ad revenue for all the games and markets, this is the 2nd reason for this "tournament" - To increase Big-10 chances of playing in the NC game. There are several eventual 9-3 SEC teams that could beat several eventual 10-2/11-1 Big 10 teams and ESPN knows it.

 

[08Vol]

Lmao, that game was never in danger.

Where do you all come up with this crap?

The issue is that the playoff committee will likely only pick 4 of the 5 or 6 SEC teams that end up 10-2. That means style points matter. The best argument for Vols being one of the 4 was our elite defense, until it crapped the bed against UGA in a game that everyone on the committee watched. So if they consider our defense to be really good but not elite, then they will look at our offensive performance and see it has been kind of mid over the last 6 games.

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

Yes we would have. The crowd and atmosphere absolutely rattled Bama and Milroe. It would have done the same thing to Georgia and Beck. You underestimate what playing at home means to the best teams in the SEC.

Like last year when we scored on the first play and beat Georgia. Beck was horribly rattled then.

 

[LegionnaireOfTheMiserable]

We also beat both teams that beat them. It’s a wash

No we didn’t

 

[Vol8188]

No we didn’t

For whatever reason I was thinking the second was to Bama not LSU

Either way it’s a wash. They have one bad loss. We have one bad loss.

 

[Johnnyreb#VFL]

I'm not so sure. Ole Miss plays with an edge that we just don't have. They'll take a punch and give 2 back. That's not UT under Heupel. Isn't it just a little concerning that at UCF Heupel won early with Frost's recruits and did the same early at UT with Hooker, TIllman, etc? But now we seem to be struggling with the kids Heupel's crew has recruited? Coincidence?

You drunk. I don’t even follow that logic whatsoever. Heupel took over UT the year after literally the worst season in program history under massive sanctions and is still dealing with those as we speak. And that’s why he won early? His record in year 4 is just as good as the 2022 record and may even end up with the programs first ever CFP birth.