Open Letter to Scotty Hopson

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BigOrangePassion1 said:
Scotty Hopson isnt very talented. I dont know where this idea that he is so gifted came from. He was an overrated recruit. He was supposed to be able to shoot. Well surprise, he cant.
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This is absolutely wrong. Hopson is the most athletically gifted player on the team. He just doesn't have the right mindset to be a great player.
 
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LawVol13 said:
This is absolutely wrong. Hopson is the most athletically gifted player on the team. He just doesn't have the right mindset to be a great player.
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Exactly.

Example: there have been more physically gifted athletes in the NBA (and perhaps even in college) than Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, etc. However, their mindset (and I.Q. for some) prevents them from taking their game to that same level. I'm not saying Scotty is a Jordan-esque type player, but his mind-set prevents him from being the dominant player he could easily be.
 
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Easily? For real tho? I would hardly say it is easy to be a dominant NCAA player. That's not fair. Ever tried it? If you have, you'd easily know its not easily done.
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Orangekush423 said:
Easily? For real tho? I would hardly say it is easy to be a dominant NCAA player. That's not fair. Ever tried it? If you have, you'd easily know its not easily done.
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I've never played college ball. I've played enough organized ball of one form or another to know what confidence, or the lack thereof, can do to a person's game regardless of how athletic they are.

And on the other side of the token, I've seen what confidence can do to someone who isn't as gifted athletically. Ex: See Larry Bird. See Chris Lofton.

Confidence in itself can lend to dominating play.
 
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It takes a certain (quite a bit) amount of work to even reach the level he has. He has lapses, yes. But to say if he tried a bit hed easily be a dominant player is quite the over-simplification.
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Orangekush423 said:
It takes a certain (quite a bit) amount of work to even reach the level he has. He has lapses, yes. But to say if he tried a bit hed easily be a dominant player is quite the over-simplification.
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I said his mind-set prevents him from being a dominant player. I Didn't say "if he'd try a little bit" then he would dominate. I never said it was easy either. The boy needs confidence.

To be honest - I am not entirely sure what exactly you are debating here. You keep bouncing around. I think you just are a fan of arguing/disagreeing.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
wrong. He's long, quick, good leaper and reasonable shooter. He, with Lofton's fire, would be a UT great.
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This is basketball. To be a great basketball player you have to be more than athletic. Chris lofton is one of the greatest shooters in the history of the sport. Scotty hopson is an average at best jump shooter. There is absolutely no comparison between him and chris lofton.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
This is basketball. To be a great basketball player you have to be more than athletic. Chris lofton is one of the greatest shooters in the history of the sport. Scotty hopson is an average at best jump shooter. There is absolutely no comparison between him and chris lofton.
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That's what he is saying. Hopson doesn't have near the shooting ability of Lofton, not many do. However, if he played with that kind of heart and intensity every game, he could be in the SEC POY discussion.
 
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Hopson has every physical tool to be the most dominant shooting guard this side of the Mississippi. He doesn't have the aggressiveness and it would help it he spent a few more sessions practicing his shot like he supposedly did last year.
 
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Orangekush423 said:
3 posts back. The last sentence says "to become the dominant player he EASILY could be" Thanks.
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Learn to read in context.
You are stating I am saying its EASY to become a dominant player.

What I am stating is that a specific talented and gifted athlete could dominate easily if he put his mind to it.

Some players, regardless of heart, fire, mindset could not actually dominate a game. Its not easy for everyone to do this. Scotty has all the physical tools readily available, and if his mindset was right and confidence levels were high, He-being Scotty Hopson, could dominate easily.

I'm referring to the one and only player we are discussing in this thread. If you want to start a discussion on whether its easy for any player to dominate or not, then feel free to do so.

Oh.....Thanks!
 
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lylsmorr said:
Hopson has every physical tool to be the most dominant shooting guard this side of the Mississippi. He doesn't have the aggressiveness and it would help it he spent a few more sessions practicing his shot like he supposedly did last year.
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Be careful using that word. Mr Kush does not like that word being thrown around.
 
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no what he is saying is that scotty is more gifted than chris lofton and that is absurd. Being able to poor it home from anywhere on the court is a greater gift than all of scotty hopsons combined. No matter how hard scotty practices or how much his will and determination grow he will never ever be able to shoot the ball half as well as chris lofton. Which will never allow him to be nearly as good a player.
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
no what he is saying is that scotty is more gifted than chris lofton and that is absurd. Being able to poor it home from anywhere on the court is a greater gift than all of scotty hopsons combined. No matter how hard scotty practices or how much his will and determination grow he will never ever be able to shoot the ball half as well as chris lofton. Which will never allow him to be nearly as good a player.
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You cant read very well. Not what I said at all.

Your gift silliness makes no sense. CLo's gifts made him a great collegiate player. Hopson's are the kind that work in college and in the NBA. His weak handle limits his offensive options and makes him play a game that doesn't suit his skills. He can improve that. He can be tougher and he can keep his head in games. Lofton has nothing to do with it.
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You alluded to the fact that chris loftons fire is what makes him a great player. What made chris lofton great was his world class jumpshot. He didnt have any more "fire"than scotty hopson. Scotty hopson doesnt have any skill or talent or gift that will ever put him at that level.
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
You alluded to the fact that chris loftons fire is what makes him a great player. What made chris lofton great was his world class jumpshot. He didnt have any more "fire"than scotty hopson. Scotty hopson doesnt have any skill or talent or gift that will ever put him at that level.
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No I didn't. I said if Hopson had Lofton's fire with his own physical talents, he'd be destined for Vol greatness. You act as if the intensity level of the two players is somehow comparable, which is absurd. Their jumpers are more comparable than their intensity, by a long shot.

Calling Hopson giftless says a lot about you and basketball. Keep 'em coming. Maybe you'll come up with something as solid as the Freudian need for UT failure in our football fans that have low expectations for CDD. I can't wait.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
You alluded to the fact that chris loftons fire is what makes him a great player. What made chris lofton great was his world class jumpshot. He didnt have any more "fire"than scotty hopson. Scotty hopson doesnt have any skill or talent or gift that will ever put him at that level.
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If you actually believe this, that tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of basketball.
 
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Yeah but you geniuses think that jumping ability and "fire" are going to make up for the fact that the kid cant shoot. Chris Lofton was as cool as a cucumber 99 percent of the time. Ive seen Scotty Hopson scream and pump his chest before. Ive also scotty Hopson hit big time game winning shots. And ive seen Chris Lofton dissapear too. The difference is that chris Lofton is a world class jump shooter and Scotty Hopson is a great athlete with average basketball skill. That does not equate to great play.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
Yeah but you geniuses think that jumping ability and "fire" are going to make up for the fact that the kid cant shoot. Chris Lofton was as cool as a cucumber 99 percent of the time. Ive seen Scotty Hopson scream and pump his chest before. Ive also scotty Hopson hit big time game winning shots. And ive seen Chris Lofton dissapear too. The difference is that chris Lofton is a world class jump shooter and Scotty Hopson is a great athlete with average basketball skill. That does not equate to great play.
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Remind me Pippen's great shooting touch at UCA. Hell, maybe JErving was a shooter and I just remember differently. Maybe CDR was a great shooter along with Derrick Rose. Corey Brewer is an incredibly gifted jumpshooter. Look no further than Iverson for a gifted shooter. Grant Hill is another tremendous shooter. Wonder if there are any other guys who been more athlete than shooter out there and been great basketball players? Can't seem to recall any.
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BigPapaVol said:
Remind me Pippen's great shooting touch at UCA. Hell, maybe JErving was a shooter and I just remember differently. Maybe CDR was a great shooter along with Derrick Rose. Corey Brewer is an incredibly gifted jumpshooter. Look no further than Iverson for a gifted shooter. Grant Hill is another tremendous shooter. Wonder if there are any other guys who been more athlete than shooter out there and been great basketball players? Can't seem to recall any.
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All terrible comparisons. Corey Brewer? He was a great player?
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BigPapaVol said:
Remind me Pippen's great shooting touch at UCA. Hell, maybe JErving was a shooter and I just remember differently. Maybe CDR was a great shooter along with Derrick Rose. Corey Brewer is an incredibly gifted jumpshooter. Look no further than Iverson for a gifted shooter. Grant Hill is another tremendous shooter. Wonder if there are any other guys who been more athlete than shooter out there and been great basketball players? Can't seem to recall any.
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There is a guy named Rajon Rondo who is doing pretty well for himself.
 
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Shooting the ball is just one of many aspects of the game. You can be a good player without being a great shooter but you cannot be a great shooting guard with a poor jumpshot. Especially when the only thing you are exceptional at is jumping. Scooty hopson is a decent player but hes never going to be great because he lacks the talent to be great.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
Shooting the ball is just one of many aspects of the game. You can be a good player without being a great shooter but you cannot be a great shooting guard with a poor jumpshot. Especially when the only thing you are exceptional at is jumping. Scooty hopson is a decent player but hes never going to be great because he lacks the talent to be great.
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"SCOOTY"?

And that is the most absurd post by far in this entire thread. "Scooty" is one of the most talented and athletically gifted players Tennessee has had in a LONG time. Unfortunately, he is also one of the most weak-minded.
 
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BigOrangePassion1 said:
Shooting the ball is just one of many aspects of the game. You can be a good player without being a great shooter but you cannot be a great shooting guard with a poor jumpshot. Especially when the only thing you are exceptional at is jumping. Scooty hopson is a decent player but hes never going to be great because he lacks the talent to be great.
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Sulking or not sulking, dude can scoot.

There's no denying that.
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