Oregon could become 1st US state to decriminalize hard drugs

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Septic said:
Jesus, do you even do cursory google search to make sure than you aren't completely wrong?

'Ridiculous,' 'outrageous' 18-year sentence for Louisiana man's pot conviction, judge says

10 People Who Received Outrageous Sentences For Drug Convictions

Meet 'Exhibit A' in Battle Over Unforgiving Drug Laws

Ten worst sentences for marijuana-related crimes

https://www.november.org/stayinfo/breaking3/Outrageous.html

This 'Three Strikes' Law Sends People to Die in Federal Prison For Drug Crimes
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As usually, you cock off half triggered without understanding simple conceptual thinking.

These people WEREN"T PUT IN PRISON FOR JUST SIMPLE POSSESSION OF MARIJUANA....they each have LONG CRIMINAL HISTORIES for a variety of criminal charges and got their probation and parole revoked for another charge.

Just like if you have a habitual felon on probation and he gets 15 years for shoplifting, he didn't get put in prison for 15 years just for a shoplifting charge.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
I never said it was a hard drug, i said it is a gateway drug for those with addiction in their genes/family history.

I also said that it's a fantasy myth that prison is full of people who were just arrested for simple possession of marijuana
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Yeah, there's no one in prison for simple possession of marijuana. Heck, I don't even see anyone getting arrested for it anymore when I peruse our local arrest report. Haven't seen it in several years. I know quite a few cops and none of them are going to take someone to jail for simple possession. The offender may get a DA ticket, but that's the extent of it. Most of the time, if someone is honest about having some in their possession, there isn't any action
 
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utvolpj said:
Actually everyone on here pretty much agreed that cigs and alcohol were the real gateway drugs.
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Weird, studies show most alcoholics do not partake in other hardcore drugs, and the majority of smokers don't either.

However a large majority of meth/heroin users started with marijuana then moved to opioids
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Weird, studies show most alcoholics do not partake in other hardcore drugs, and the majority of smokers don't either.

However a large majority of meth/heroin users started with marijuana then moved to opioids
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Almost every pot smoker I've ever known smoked cigs and drank. This isn't about alcoholics it's about what it used first. The gateway drug argument is crap anyways and only used by those who want to continue the useless prohibition
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
Yeah, there's no one in prison for simple possession of marijuana. Heck, I don't even see anyone getting arrested for it anymore when I peruse our local arrest report. Haven't seen it in several years. I know quite a few cops and none of them are going to take someone to jail for simple possession. The offender may get a DA ticket, but that's the extent of it. Most of the time, if someone is honest about having some in their possession, there isn't any action
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That's still parsing words. This should be about any possession but that argument falls flat so qualifiers keep being added
 
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utvolpj said:
That's still parsing words. This should be about any possession but that argument falls flat so qualifiers keep being added
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It's not parsing words to say people aren't getting arrested for it. I'm stating what the record reflects right now in almost every city and town in this country
 
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USAFgolferVol said:
It's not parsing words to say people aren't getting arrested for it. I'm stating what the record reflects right now in almost every city and town in this country
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They are still arrested and jailed for possession. Tagging it as "simple" is a deflection
 
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utvolpj said:
They are still arrested and jailed for possession. Tagging it as "simple" is a misnomer
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THey are arrested and jailed for selling large amounts of it as in being a drug dealer. It's not the same thing you are pretending it is as in a poor kid being thrown in prison for having a joint or a small baggie of weed which is not what's happening
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
THey are arrested and jailed for selling large amounts of it as in being a drug dealer. It's not the same thing you are pretending it is as in a poor kid being thrown in prison for having a joint or a small baggie of weed which is not what's happening
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Still possession and still only because it's deemed illegal. There is little difference other than a weak attempt to make it palatable in suburbia
 
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utvolpj said:
Selling alcohol or cigarettes to underage doesn't land a person in prison. Your menacing use of drug dealer has little effect. Much of what they do wouldn't be a crime if the substance was legal. But that would cut revenue so we know that isn't going to change.

The tax laws need to be revised before I care very much about what someone else pays.
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Unless it’s loosies in which case the perpetrators should be executed.
 
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utvolpj said:
Receiving money for influence? Pretty sure that's what I addressed. No one is finding campaigns out of the goodness of their heart
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Some donate large amounts without asking for a damn thing in return. I specifically know one guy who has done it and didn't ask for anything in return. He may be an exception but your contention has been an absolute one
 
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