Oregon is a better football team than Bubba

[cherokeechief]

Like Bama did the Vols?

 

[JCP201]

Saban didn't take out his first team till about 6 minutes in the fourth quarter. Oregon took everyone out after halftime... Just saying.

 

[SDV]

Saban didn't take out his first team till about 6 minutes in the fourth quarter. Oregon took everyone out after halftime... Just saying.

This

 

[will5]

Comparing box score stats between Oregon and Alabama v. Tennessee: Oregon wins

 

[BigOrangeLoyalist]

I think Alabama and Oregon would be a great game. As someone else pointed out, it's an interesting match-up of polar opposites. Regardless, give Saban that month to analyze and prepare, and Bama will exploit any Ducks weakness. I do think both teams would beat Florida State and Ohio State (which should be the Orange Bowl or something, in its own right, if both teams stay unbeaten), as I think both are overrated, playing weaker schedules (especially Clemson) in the ACC and Big10 respectively. Florida State WILL be a force to reckon with over the next few years though. Winston is a damn good football player.

 

[MikeVol44]

Comparing box score stats between Oregon and Alabama v. Tennessee: Oregon wins

Comparing stats back in 1998 between FSU and our beloved Vols: FSU WINS....

really--now?? We actually believe stats mean anything when comparing two teams??? What did the stats and records mean when Mizzou played USCe a few days ago? What did those stats mean even when Mizzou was winning 17-0 in the 4th QTR?

Puhhhlease! Face it boys---as much as I HATE IT--Saban could have put up 70 on us last Saturday if he had that inclination.

 

[will5]

Comparing stats back in 1998 between FSU and our beloved Vols: FSU WINS....

really--now?? We actually believe stats mean anything when comparing two teams??? What did the stats and records mean when Mizzou played USCe a few days ago? What did those stats mean even when Mizzou was winning 17-0 in the 4th QTR?

Puhhhlease! Face it boys---as much as I HATE IT--Saban could have put up 70 on us last Saturday if he had that inclination.

Your points are not very strong, please stop writing as if they are.

 

[MikeVol44]

Your points are not very strong, please stop writing as if they are.

Oh, I see...thanks for the advice....

I guess that you have concluded that comparing the box scores and margin of victory leads you to the STRONGEST position of arguing that Oregon is better and should beat Bama if they played in the NC game? Is that what you really mean here? Does that mean that Oregon has won ANY NC on paper according to your calculations?

Really, junior--go back to your playstation.

 

[calban]

A play every 17 seconds.
Like everyone else the boys from Bama will be gassed by the end of the third.
Hell one Manzel put 42 on them. What will a team with 3 or 4 of them do?
SEC reign ends this season.

 

[AllVols]

I 'd like to see Oregon v bama.

 

[Jave]

I'm not going to speculate on who wins if Oregon plays Alabama in the natty, yet. Lets see how we do against a similar team in Stanford next week. Also, Alabama has to get by LSU and now a returning Auburn team. The path is not paved for anyone....well except Ohio State who has the weakest schedule out of all the contenders. They scheduled patsys this year and are just going to hope everyone else beats each other up and they slide in by default, aka Notre Dame.

 

[MikeVol44]

A play every 17 seconds.
Like everyone else the boys from Bama will be gassed by the end of the third.
Hell one Manzel put 42 on them. What will a team with 3 or 4 of them do?
SEC reign ends this season.

Yep, that's the theory anyway…But just one thing you forgot--a play every 17 seconds is predicated on picking up 10 yards and a first down. It's also predicated on them being able to score fast on big plays--that won't happen against Alabubba. What happens when they don't pick up the first down? Or what happens when they get slobber-nocked and fumble the ball? Or when they get an INT? All of those things happened against LSU on a neutral field….leaving the Quacks to go home crying again…..about "it's just not fair…"

Without making big plays (scores of >50 yards or more)--Oregon doesn't win close ballgames. I haven't checked lately--but I'd lay a lot of $$$ that Alabubba's Defense gives up the fewest amount of big plays in college FB--or they are at least in the top 4.

So, Bama's defense is on the field for 51 seconds and then rests for 3-4 minutes because they are physically smashing Oregon's defense in a methodical drive to a score. Bama's Offense can run over, through, and around you while McCarron can throw the ball over you. They are big, physical, fast, and can gash you at any time.

You seem to forget that Alabama had A&M down by 35-14….every time A&M would score, bubba would score again and was ahead by 49-35 with 2 minutes to play in the game and playing a D that was geared to eliminate the big play. Their D has played better since then--and Mariota, while very good, is not Johnny Manziel.

A&M did rush the ball okay, but it was Manziel's heaves (and sometimes he heaved it with a prayer attached) that kept A&M in the game. Mariota and Oregon--if forced to rely on their passing game to win--ARE DESTINED TO LOSE BIG AGAINST THE Bammers……Does Oregon have ANY 6-5, 4.4 40 guys to throw to like aTm?

Look--it's all OPINION at this point, that's the ONLY thing that is for certain. However, beyond opinion--Oregon does have a track record against the big, physical, fast, and BEST defenses in the SEC--and they are 0-2 against elite SEC teams. THIS Bama team--while defensively not as good as last year's team--is starting to put it all together in the final drive to the NC.

This year's Oregon team is good and appears to be better than their teams over the last few years--but they were just up against UCLA by 21-14 late in the 3rd when UCLA threw an INT in Oregon territory. Then the ducks quickly added some scores at the end to make it look like the game was a blow-out when it wasn't…

All you Oregon Quacks have to do is--as Jack Palance would say--PROVE IT! :salute:

GO VOLS! GO SEC!

 

[calban]

THIS Bama team--while defensively not as good as last year's team--is starting to put it all together in the final drive to the NC.



GO VOLS! GO SEC!

And they just gave up 10 points (averaging 9.8 a game) in 15 minutes to a true freshman that had never played a minute of college ball.

Leaves me wondering if they are getting better on D.

 

[MikeVol44]

And they just gave up 10 points (averaging 9.8 a game) in 15 minutes to a true freshman that had never played a minute of college ball.

Leaves me wondering if they are getting better on D.

DUDE--is that the best you got??? 'Bubba's defense in mop-up role against true Freshman QB when leading VOLS 35-0…on the first drive in the 3rd QTR--Dobbs handed off 3 times and threw 1 incompletion...

Desperate and ignorant fans look for anything positive--but just to be sure--Bama's defense was extremely vanilla in the second half of the game…

Dobbs did look good--but facts are facts--BAMA set it on cruise control in the 2nd half on Defense…And if you don't realize that--it's because you probably have NEVER played the game, except on Playstation….

No animosity here--but at least TRY to be objective about our archenemy…..THEY GOOD! :salute:

 

[LotteryPick]

DUDE--is that the best you got??? 'Bubba's defense in mop-up role against true Freshman QB when leading VOLS 35-0…on the first drive in the 3rd QTR--Dobbs handed off 3 times and threw 1 incompletion...

Desperate and ignorant fans look for anything positive--but just to be sure--Bama's defense was extremely vanilla in the second half of the game…

Dobbs did look good--but facts are facts--BAMA set it on cruise control in the 2nd half on Defense…And if you don't realize that--it's because you probably have NEVER played the game, except on Playstation….

No animosity here--but at least TRY to be objective about our archenemy…..THEY GOOD! :salute:

Most people that say this only played middle school football. Poor argument.

 

[utchs81]

were not going to play them..they will lose tonight or Stanford will beat them.we play Fl State

And you haven't finished with your gauntlet either. I don't foreseeing that happen but as you are aware anything is possible in the SEC.:unsure:

 

[MikeVol44]

Most people that say this only played middle school football. Poor argument.

I'm not most people--and my point was that IF you've ever played on a good team, and been up on an opponent by >30 points--you KNOW what it's like to play defense in that situation--different intensity, totally different mindset…and it's not a poor argument if you've been in that exact situation…..

good grief--desperation seems to breed stupidity!

And, what's your point--other than just trying to be a smart-azz?

To answer your question--I played for Bradley Bears back in the day with Dale Jones, and Chris White. Had offers to play D-III ball….

But--I should have learned by now that there's just no way to actually reason with idiots who've NEVER played….:salute:

 

[LotteryPick]

I'm not most people--and my point was that IF you've ever played on a good team, and been up on an opponent by >30 points--you KNOW what it's like to play defense in that situation--different intensity, totally different mindset…and it's not a poor argument if you've been in that exact situation…..

good grief--desperation seems to breed stupidity!

And, what's your point--other than just trying to be a smart-azz?

To answer your question--I played for Bradley Bears back in the day with Dale Jones, and Chris White. Had offers to play D-III ball….

But--I should have learned by now that there's just no way to actually reason with idiots who've NEVER played….:salute:

High school doesn't count either, champ.

Since you seem to use that as a crutch so much, I'm assuming your can't form a rational argument without bringing up your limited experience playing football.

 

[calban]

DUDE--is that the best you got??? 'Bubba's defense in mop-up role against true Freshman QB when leading VOLS 35-0…on the first drive in the 3rd QTR--Dobbs handed off 3 times and threw 1 incompletion...

Desperate and ignorant fans look for anything positive--but just to be sure--Bama's defense was extremely vanilla in the second half of the game…

Dobbs did look good--but facts are facts--BAMA set it on cruise control in the 2nd half on Defense…And if you don't realize that--it's because you probably have NEVER played the game, except on Playstation….

No animosity here--but at least TRY to be objective about our archenemy…..THEY GOOD! :salute:

If they were on cruise control why were their starters still playing in the end of the third qt.
They didn't pull them until well after our TD.
Sorry I don't have Playstation.
Didn't say they weren't GOOD, just not as good as many are giving them credit.
SEC reign has been about 8 years now.
Think it's going to last forever?
History says no.

 

[ATC_VOL]

After seeing both teams in person I think Alabama is better. Oregon is very impressive though.

 

[MikeVol44]

High school doesn't count either, champ.

Since you seem to use that as a crutch so much, I'm assuming your can't form a rational argument without bringing up your limited experience playing football.

Well--whatchu got as your bona fides? That wuss in your avatar? Have you even played the game at ANY LEVEL? :crazy:

 

[BACKDOC]

jmo...they have more speed....

If they couldn't beat Auburn and that D, I definitely don't see them beating Bama.

 

[RussDogg]

Bama wins 38-18 in a game that's not as close as the score would indicate.

 

[LotteryPick]

Well--whatchu got as your bona fides? That wuss in your avatar? Have you even played the game at ANY LEVEL? :crazy:

Not a level I feel obligated to use when I know my level of intellect doesn't suffice.

 

[MikeVol44]

There continues to be a shocking amount of ignorance here and elsewhere about the kind of players Oregon now has in the trenches. Oregon's current run is not entirely predicated on speedy skill position players - Oregon has future pro talent up front on both sides of the ball, and an elite secondary. The weakness at the start of the season was undoubtedly the RB depth, and the inexperience and, to a certain extent, size deficiency in the linebacker group. The former is quickly becoming a non-issue, as Marshall grows into the kind of workhorse we thought he could be, and Tyner emerges as a big play threat in his own right, and the latter has largely been covered up by the heady play of both the LBs and DBs and the overall athleticism of the front line. This is not a team with the same weaknesses as the previous few Oregon has fielded. It's a deeper, more talented squad than any of the groups that made the previous 4 BCS bowls.

Well, well--looks like ALL the ignorance is on the LEFT COAST…..You know--I would have never said a thing to you quacks--but you come on here talking about how good your players are--YOU ESPECIALLY, Bellotti--and all of these great NFL playas just got their azzes physically handed to them by the ONLY left coast team comparable to BAMA….

And don't even try to point to the score--Stanford was just pounding that azz and running clock in the second half and almost screwed up the ending…

Whether Bama makes it to the NC game or not--you guys are exposed for what you are--YOU CAN'T HANG when those big, tough physical teams BUST you in the mouth. Auburn, LSU, Stanford x2--and you really just think that you want some of BAMA….

And if you dared even watch tonight's game--YOU KNOW that Stanford COMPLETELY dominated the line of scrimmage ALL night long--proving the point that I was making on here from the beginning.

Lotterpick and Calban--that goes for you, too. :salute: