OU DT Charles Walker leaving during season to prepare for NFL Draft

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Ian Rapoport: #Oklahoma star DT Charles Walker told coach Bob Stoops that he's leaving the team immediately to prepare for the draft. He's projected high
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Sounds like a familiar story: has a concussion, not sure how much he'll play.

Stoops didn't mince words: "Quitting on your teammates is hard to take as a coach."

Thoughts?
 
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Good news for WVU this weekend. If everything falls right for them they could be the fourth team in the playoff.
 
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Freak said:
Sounds like a familiar story: has a concussion, not sure how much he'll play.

Stoops didn't mince words: "Quitting on your teammates is hard to take as a coach."

Thoughts?
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So is he going to give him his salary after the season. Funny, somehow I doubt Stoops continues to coach if he wasn't getting paid and for which might hurt his ability to get a future job.

The one that is selfish is Stoops, and most probably a hypocrite.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
So is he going to give him his salary after the season. Funny, somehow I doubt Stoops continues to coach if he wasn't getting paid and for which might hurt his ability to get a future job.

The one that is selfish is Stoops, and most probably a hypocrite.
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Sounds like he wasn't even going to play. So how much "preparation" is going to get done while he's doing recovery from concussions? He also needs to "prepare" himself for the inevitable question from potential NFL "employers". "So why should we commit millions of dollars to you when you didn't complete your most previous commitment?" Bet it gets asked. :thumbsup:
 
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I think in an instance like this where a player clearly just quits his team, it nullifies any contract they have and the school should make any remainder of the scholarship void. Hopefully the NFL scouts and GMs will recognize these guys as quitters and stay clear of them.
 
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Players try to find a way to play. Quitters look for an excuse to quit. The guys with the quitter mentality never seem to really live up to expectations if/when they get to the NFL.
 
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How can any player possibly think this is a good idea? The best way to prepare for the draft is to....keep playing and showing what you can do in actual games.
 
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butchna said:
Sounds like he wasn't even going to play. So how much "preparation" is going to get done while he's doing recovery from concussions? He also needs to "prepare" himself for the inevitable question from potential NFL "employers". "So why should we commit millions of dollars to you when you didn't complete your most previous commitment?" Bet it gets asked. :thumbsup:
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They were going to ask questions either way, but that is really his business. If other players want to call him out, than it seems a tad more acceptable. A coach that makes millions a year, and which probably has guarantee salary for X amount of years and has close to zero chance of getting injured which would effect his salary.... seems self-serving, low-class, and quite bizarre to me. imo

College football is a major business, not sure what is wrong with players taking it as a business. If the schools and coaches really feel this way, they should be foregoing all the millions this sport generates.
 
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I don't mind college players being selfish. They're being asked to risk their health for 0 salary. The NCAA already treats it as a business; I don't blame players for doing the same.
 
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Stoops left UF before their season was finished to take the OU job. Someone should ask him about that
 
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These NFL teams don't care what a player has done. He's the number four DT. He'll be picked probably, oh, I dunno, number four DT?

Stoops is a hypocrite, exactly as pj said.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
They were going to ask questions either way, but that is really his business. If other players want to call him out, than it seems a tad more acceptable. A coach that makes millions a year, and which probably has guarantee salary for X amount of years and has close to zero chance of getting injured which would effect his salary.... seems self-serving, low-class, and quite bizarre to me. imo

College football is a major business, not sure what is wrong with players taking it as a business. If the schools and coaches really feel this way, they should be foregoing all the millions this sport generates.
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Yeah and at the next level they're wanting players that reach for that extra something in themselves. That wins games, both regular and playoff. This is a major minus when they're evaluating picks and there's a tiebreaker. Future NFL teammates really love "business decisions" when they're sweating and bleeding.
 
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utvolpj said:
Stoops left UF before their season was finished to take the OU job. Someone should ask him about that
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You mean like Cut did for us? Or like countless coaches have upon being hired? Don't see the hypocrite angle.
 
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butchna said:
You mean like Cut did for us? Or like countless coaches have upon being hired? Don't see the hypocrite angle.
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Why can a coach quit his team and get a pass while the one actually putting his body and health on the line is vilified?

There is no difference in their actions and what this player is doing. He's just maximizing his earning potential
 
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utvolpj said:
Why can a coach quit his team and get a pass while the one actually putting his body and health on the line is vilified?

There is no difference in their actions and what this player is doing. He's just maximizing his earning potential
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For your analogy to work, the NFL would need to be able to use his services immediately. A newly hired coach starts recruiting and setting up his staff for his new employer...vital stuff...and most likely with the blessing of his former boss. Because they pretty much all get started under similar circumstances. This kid is skipping out to prepare for a combine and pro days months away. Fair or unfair (I vote fair), this smacks of lack of dedication.

Edit: I'll add for the benefit of your analogy. Stoops would have had to resign to PREPARE to be interviewed for a yet unnamed job.
 
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butchna said:
Yeah and at the next level they're wanting players that reach for that extra something in themselves. That wins games, both regular and playoff. This is a major minus when they're evaluating picks and there's a tiebreaker. Future NFL teammates really love "business decisions" when they're sweating and bleeding.
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Whether it was a good business decision or bad to me is not relevant. If the coach told him in private that he thought it might hurt his draft stock, he could have done that. As far as the schools and coaches to call out a player for this decision to me in public seems quite self-serving i.e. they are greedy.

Fournette could have shut things down by the 5th game last year and doubt it would hurt his draft stock much, yes, but that is relevant... the kid is just doing what he thinks is right and you have a coach with self-serving interest, damaging the kids stock.
 
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As you so clearly stated, staying on at the current job would have put those coaches at risk of not achieving their goals. The exact same thing can be said about the player sustaining another concussion. Only difference is the player would still be poor and have the possibility of lifelong health issues.

Based on those possible outcomes you could be correct. The player had much more to lose
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Whether it was a good business decision or bad to me is not relevant. If the coach told him in private that he thought it might hurt his draft stock, he could have done that. As far as the schools and coaches to call out a player for this decision to me in public seems quite self-serving i.e. they are greedy.

Fournette could have shut things down by the 5th game last year and doubt it would hurt his draft stock much, yes, but that is relevant... the kid is just doing what he thinks is right and you have a coach with self-serving interest, damaging the kids stock.
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It's going to hurt him when they run em in shorts and ask em questions. They LOOK for red flags at that pony show. He emailed his in early.
 
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utvolpj said:
As you so clearly stated, staying on at the current job would have put those coaches at risk of not achieving their goals. The exact same thing can be said about the player sustaining another concussion. Only difference is the player would still be poor and have the possibility of lifelong health issues.

Based on those possible outcomes you could be correct. The player had much more to lose
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And he will. He ain't been hired yet.
 
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