OU DT Charles Walker leaving during season to prepare for NFL Draft

#76
#76
Wait until more players with NFL prospects stop playing in the exhibition (bowl) games. I expect that to become a growing trend.

I'd rather give our exhibtion bowl reps to the next guys up than a guy who is leaving and has possibly mentally checked out.
 
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Disclaimer: Not saying Walker is a bad person or a bad kid.
Charles Walker barely played all season, and when he did wasn't showing the same effort, he had clearly mailed it in. He then sat out with a self reported concussion. The doctors couldn't find anything wrong with him, but he kept reporting it so he sat from ~around the end of September till he quit (also he reported a concussion before the playoff game last year and sat the game. Players thought he just didn't want to play, but the doctors were hesitant.) Bob Stoops had swept this all under the rug. We (OU ppl) think he quit after we had 2 players retire from concussions and he got scared, b/c he has a daughter to support.
(All of this info is from TFB, and local media)

Thanks for the actual information. :hi:
 
#82
#82
If Guarantano was leading us to the playoffs and quit early to "prepare for the draft"?
 
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Playoffs is way different from sugar bowl or citrus, or whatever. The context was "exhibition" bowl games.

Walker quit with two games left in the season. There was no context in your hypothetical. Quitting on your team is quitting on your team. You'd be the first in line menstruating when your star QB makes a BUSINESS DECISION. :)
 
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#86
#86
Walker quit with two games left in the season. There was no context in your hypothetical. Quitting on your team is quitting on your team. You'd be the first in line menstruating when your star QB makes a BUSINESS DECISION. :)

He was building on my comment that more players with NFL prospects may bail on non playoff bowl games.

And I've not met him, but I believe that huff would be one of the last to complain about a player choosing his future over an exhibition game.
 
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He was building on my comment that more players with NFL prospects may bail on non playoff bowl games.

And I've not met him, but I believe that huff would be one of the last to complain about a player choosing his future over an exhibition game.

Then I'm not sure why he's following college football. Or you for that matter.
 
#92
#92
Walker quit with two games left in the season. There was no context in your hypothetical. Quitting on your team is quitting on your team. You'd be the first in line menstruating when your star QB makes a BUSINESS DECISION. :)

Go away
 
#94
#94
Thought we were talking about the inferior product of college football? And...how players...need to...quit and be...happy? :unsure:

You're exactly right.

Except for the part about the inferior product. No one mentioned that.....I sure didn't. And the part about players needing to quit. Never said they need to quit. Just won't surprise me if and when they do to avoid injury before getting paid.
 
#95
#95
You're exactly right.

Except for the part about the inferior product. No one mentioned that.....I sure didn't. And the part about players needing to quit. Never said they need to quit. Just won't surprise me if and when they do to avoid injury before getting paid.

"Just won't surprise me" is window dressing for heartfelt endorsement. :) He ain't getting paid jack...he'll be a cautionary tale.
 
#96
#96
Thought we were talking about the inferior product of college football? And...how players...need to...quit and be...happy? :unsure:

Players should do what they think is best for themselves and their families rather than what's best for some random fans. Not sure why that concept is difficult for you.
 
#97
#97
Players should do what they think is best for themselves and their families rather than what's best for some random fans. Not sure why that concept is difficult for you.

I think he thinks he did. And it'll cost him with RANDOM NFL GMs. Not difficult for ME at all.
 
#98
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Players should do what they think is best for themselves and their families rather than what's best for some random fans. Not sure why that concept is difficult for you.

So in your mind they don't have any obligation to their teammates? They should do what's best for themselves without regard for those that have helped him showcase his talents? The concept of team and commitment seem like a difficult concept for some of you.
 
#99
#99
So in your mind they don't have any obligation to their teammates? They should do what's best for themselves without regard for those that have helped him showcase his talents? The concept of team and commitment seem like a difficult concept for some of you.

There's a broader human rights angle they're wanting to espouse. We should all get to do whatever we want all the time right now...and get paid millions for it. Their candidate lost. :)
 
I think he thinks he did. And it'll cost him with RANDOM NFL GMs. Not difficult for ME at all.

He thinks he did, and he very well could be right. We certainly don't know anywhere near enough to tell him he's wrong.

And for the 20th time, whether he will drop in the draft is a separate argument. You keep repeating that others would be mad if UT players did the same thing, so I'll repeat that us as fans would have no right - whatsoever - to be mad at a player for doing what's best for himself and his family, given that players owe us fans not a damn thing.
 

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