Our chances at Oregon.....

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VolBraniac said:
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Considering we don't have depth, much talent and speed, what exaclyt is BS?

Btw, we didn't have any of the three in any sufficient quantity in Fulmer's last years either. Of Kiffie.



You know, this "leadership is our problem" position is the telling diagnosis of Orange Koolaiditis.

Seek thee a gastroenterologist.
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Forgive us for not taking medical advice from a guy that can't spell "brain".

Have a nice day.


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24/7vol said:
I have never watched a game expecting us to lose. Call it drinking the koolaid, having on orange colored glasses or just being a Tennessee fanatic (fan for short). When you played football did you go into some games expecting to lose? I doubt it or if so you shouldn't have been on the field to begin with. IF we should get beat let's leave em limping.
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Naw, I went into every game expecting to win. Every single one. Why be practical? Why not set yourself up to be emotionally decimated and mentally clobbered? Why not simply live in La-La-Land is what I always said.

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VolBraniac said:
Somebody has got to set these kiddies and their delusions right. :eek:lol:
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GoDucks349 said:
This game is truly a puzzle to me. Lots of "unknowns" and "ifs" to go around on both sides of the football. I really don't think this is a "blow out" game for Oregon. I do think it's closer than the early spread. As a Duck you have to expect me to think we'll win, just as I expect Tenn fans to think they will win. That's only reasonable.

Oregon: Are they really going to be able to fill the gaps at LB? How much will they miss Jordan at DE? Is the reason Marshall may start at RB because Thomas didn't bulk up in the off season? Will Oregon throw the ball more now that Kelly is gone? The WR look very solid and with Huff finally healthy will he burn defenses that focus on the run? How's Oregon going to do in the FG department this year? (kicker cost the Ducks the Stanford game last year) Will Helfrich be worse, better or just different than Kelly? Will Helfrich have the steel balls Kelly carried around?

Tenn: Suspect QB with very talented rookie WRs, will they be throwing completions to the defense? Can freshmen WR stay focused in a big game while getting their bell rung by the DBs? Can Tenn oline pound Oregon's defense and wear them down? Who's starting at RB? Does Tenn have the speed and depth and discipline to pull a Stanford on defense and shut down the Oregon running game? Will a new coach with talent he didn't recruit be able to transform them into a very tough opponent by week three? How many players have left the program during the transition? Usually a new coach loses a few if he's a strong disciplinarian.

Just some thoughts on the game.
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GoDucks349, I don't know how much of a "recruitnik" you are, but some of the guys in the recruiting forum asked a question that perhaps you can shed light on. What is the deal with Connor Humphreys, top-ranked prospect in the state of Oregon for the 2014 class? He is a defensive end and is listed in the top-80 prospects overall by Rivals. Tennessee apparently has a very good chance of gaining his commitment. Why does he not have any interest in Oregon, as opposed to Oregon State?
 
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People still don't fully understand what a bad coach Dooley was. And he managed to hire, when his job depended on it, an even worse coach than himself in Sunseri.

If Butch is any kind of coach we will know it at Oregon. This game should be close. I know we need to get our winning mentality back, but we match up well against Oregon. No way the game should have the spread it does.

Edit: If one of the receivers stayed, I'd actually predict a big Vol upset.
 
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24/7vol said:
I have never watched a game expecting us to lose. Call it drinking the koolaid, having on orange colored glasses or just being a Tennessee fanatic (fan for short). When you played football did you go into some games expecting to lose? I doubt it or if so you shouldn't have been on the field to begin with. IF we should get beat let's leave em limping.
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Now wait a minute. Tennessee doesn't know what it's like to win big games.....and even if they did, they are incapable of bouncing back from going through down years.......
 
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The similarities between Bruce Pearl and his changing of our losing mindset and Butch Jones to Doug Dickey are eerily similar. Not saying we win this game or that but we will have I believe a kick their arse and play for four quarters attitude IMO.
 
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daj2576 said:
Recruiting rankings actually matter and can be used to predict seasonal outcomes.
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Yes, they matter.
However Oregon has, over the course of the past decade, been one of the most underrated teams in the nation - in no small measure because of how imprecise recruiting rankings are, and because they fail to account for a coaching staff's ability to project, develop, and utilize athletes. If you want to draw comparisons with recruiting rankings, be my guest. Just don't be surprised when our lines manhandle yours, in spite of whatever your analysis of how well regarded 17 year olds were a few years ago may tell you.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
GoDucks349, I don't know how much of a "recruitnik" you are, but some of the guys in the recruiting forum asked a question that perhaps you can shed light on. What is the deal with Connor Humphreys, top-ranked prospect in the state of Oregon for the 2014 class? He is a defensive end and is listed in the top-80 prospects overall by Rivals. Tennessee apparently has a very good chance of gaining his commitment. Why does he not have any interest in Oregon, as opposed to Oregon State?
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Oregon's staff has all sorts of interesting ways of figuring out who gets a Duck offer. None of us are privy to why Humphries hasn't attracted them. The conventional wisdom in fan circles right now is that his frame/athleticism isn't what they are looking for on DL *or* OLB. Also, and this dovetails a bit with my (admittedly) rather dickish post above, but the Oregon coaching staff is notorious for not caring at all what Rivals, Scout, and ESPN have to say about athletes.
 
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CA_Vol said:
Way too much expect us to compete offensively this early in the season. New QB and a stable of new receivers will make it extremely difficult to match pts with Oregon. Unless we win the TO battle with a few TDs, I suspect this will be a loss, but great experience playing in a hostile environment before SEC play.
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Which is why I feel we have a good chance at Florida.
 
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BellottiBold said:
Yes, they matter.
However Oregon has, over the course of the past decade, been one of the most underrated teams in the nation - in no small measure because of how imprecise recruiting rankings are, and because they fail to account for a coaching staff's ability to project, develop, and utilize athletes. If you want to draw comparisons with recruiting rankings, be my guest. Just don't be surprised when our lines manhandle yours, in spite of whatever your analysis of how well regarded 17 year olds were a few years ago may tell you.
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As good as you guys are I'm not sure you really "manhandle" anyone. The scheme is terrific however and yes your coaches do a great job of evaluating talent.
 
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Wilson27 said:
As good as you guys are I'm not sure you really "manhandle" anyone. The scheme is terrific however and yes your coaches do a great job of evaluating talent.
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Yeah, is he saying, the Oregon D line is gonna "manhandle" J.James, Fulton and Tiny? Is their O line is gonna manhandle McCullers? Hmmm.
 
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Wilson27 said:
As good as you guys are I'm not sure you really "manhandle" anyone. The scheme is terrific however and yes your coaches do a great job of evaluating talent.
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i agree oregon is more of a finesse team...when i think dominating lines sadly i think of bama and lsu and florida on D
 
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VolBraniac said:
Naw, I went into every game expecting to win. Every single one. Why be practical? Why not set yourself up to be emotionally decimated and mentally clobbered? Why not simply live in La-La-Land is what I always said.

:loco:
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So you never actually played except maybe play station right?
 
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BellottiBold said:
Yes, they matter.
However Oregon has, over the course of the past decade, been one of the most underrated teams in the nation - in no small measure because of how imprecise recruiting rankings are, and because they fail to account for a coaching staff's ability to project, develop, and utilize athletes. If you want to draw comparisons with recruiting rankings, be my guest. Just don't be surprised when our lines manhandle yours, in spite of whatever your analysis of how well regarded 17 year olds were a few years ago may tell you.
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If any line should be getting manhandled, it's yours. No disrespect, but we're returning the best O-Line in the SEC. The only question mark is how our QB's and receiver's will play. They're talented, but inexperienced. Our O-Line, however, will be a large help in the growth process for our QB's though. With that being said, Oregon should be respected, and they're a top 5 team this year IMO. We'll be very lucky to come out of Eugene with a W. Autzen isn't an easy place to play. I'm not going to be so quick to say that we don't give you a fight though. I believe this will be a much different Tennessee team compared to the past three years. The difference in the overall mentality of this Tennessee team will be noticeable IMO. We will fight till the end, and if we're in a position to win, we will take advantage of that and not quit till we come out with a W. I'm looking forward to this game because it will be a true test for our Vols and coach Jones.
 
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Volosaurus rex said:
GoDucks349, I don't know how much of a "recruitnik" you are, but some of the guys in the recruiting forum asked a question that perhaps you can shed light on. What is the deal with Connor Humphreys, top-ranked prospect in the state of Oregon for the 2014 class? He is a defensive end and is listed in the top-80 prospects overall by Rivals. Tennessee apparently has a very good chance of gaining his commitment. Why does he not have any interest in Oregon, as opposed to Oregon State?
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I suspect it's because Oregon has verbals from some other recruits at that position such as Jalen Jelks 6'7" 250# with a ton of upside potential.

I understand Connor has an interest in Oregon, Oregon hasn't offered him at this point. He's a very good athlete and who ever gets him should be very happy.

As for Oregon vs. Oregon St, culturally the two schools are quite different and many times it comes down to "family ties". Where did his father, mother, brother sister, cousin etc go to school. Plus he injured a shoulder a while back. The injury should be a non-issue down the road.
 
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Posting just to enter the Outback sweepstakes. I have no idea as to how well we'll do against the ducks.
 
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