Pac 10 better than the SEC???

#152
#152
Soccer is definitely the most popular sport in Asia. That's not even debatable. Baseball is popular in Japan like it is in the US, but I would say that soccer is probably more popular in Japan than in the US.

I would say that soccer and track are the 2 most popular sports in Africa.

Soccer is definitely the most popular sport in South America and Europe.
 
#155
#155
tvolsfan said:
And anyways, it was a response to an earlier post on comparing soccer to underwater weaving.
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Which is that poster's opinion, both hold about the same ground to them. I'd be inclined to agree if I didn't want to insult underwater basket weaving.
 
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Teddyhead said:
So I was doing my usual rounds of all Pac 10 team message boards when I stumbled across this fascinating post in an ASU forum. I realize the post will probably be completely discredited by you guys and that’s understandable. I mean after all, it is just some whacko from an ASU board and for the most part it is poorly written. Still, the post begs the question, what if all of those stats he put together are accurate? Could he be onto something or is he just a Pac10 homer?

The real truth.. Pac 10 vs SEC from another board

Thoughts? If Any…
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Vandy would be a consistent bowl team in the Pac

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droski said:
no they wouldn't. their recruiting would put them 7th or 8th in the pac-10.
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I think Vandy would occasionally make a bowl in most other conferences. Not regularly, but I doubt they'd have a streak like the one they're currently building.
 
#164
#164
You know SEC fans are overstepping their bounds when they start pumping up teams like Vandy and Mississippi State.

It's still the best conference around... And it still has some godawful embarrassments of football programs.
 
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milohimself said:
I agree with you. SEC does have the largest share of BCS bottom-dwellers. Ole Miss, Miss State and Vanderbilt are all currently like that. Kentucky is actually a .500-quality program right now, but we'll see how that lasts.

Still, the SEC has...

Florida - Probably the second most prominent football program in the US besides USC
LSU - Consistently the most talented football team in the US, even though they don't have the record to prove it
Georgia - Always talented and in the discussion for the SEC championship

Tennessee and Auburn are almost at that level. Tubberville needs to be a little more consistent with his talent. Tennessee is a good coaching staff away (READ: I DO NOT MEAN FIRE FULMER) from reaching the top of the conference.

On the way down: Arkansas' problems with Mustain and CHN are going to set them back... I don't see Kentucky getting any better. They will plateau at best, if not slide back down to being Kentucky.

Then the bottom dwellers.

Point being: Even though I believe the Pac to be the second-best conference, the SEC has 5 teams that would consistently finish 2nd in the Pac-10. Alabama and South Carolina would be top-half teams, too.

So while the SEC does have more dogs**t programs than any other BCS conference, it has too much talent at the top to ignore.
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I don't agree that the SEC has a larger amount of "bottom feeders" than other conferences. For instance....

Big ten
Northwestern - save a small run in the late 90's what has this program accomplished.
Illinois - in and out of low tier bowls, have the zooker at the helm.
Indiana - I am not sure of the last time they were in a bowl but it hasn't been in the last decade.

Big twelve -
Baylor - On the level of the Mississippi's, but didn't have the success of those two school in the late 90's.
Kansas - recently scraped into the bowl pool, but a pretty dismal program
Iowa State - same as Kansas.

ACC
Duke - Need I say more?
UNC - pretty consistently bad over the last 20 years with a few bright spots now and again (mack brown)
Wake - Try and forget last year and you will agree that this program was on par with Vandy.

Pac 10
Stanford - has been horrible as of late
ASU, Zona,WSU, Org. St. - except for each programs blip on the national scene the last 20 years, each alternate in and out of the level of the SEC cellar dwellers.

Big East...no reason to even start.
 
#166
#166
Ericvol2096 said:
Pac 10
Stanford - has been horrible as of late
ASU, Zona,WSU, Org. St. - except for each programs blip on the national scene the last 20 years, each alternate in and out of the level of the SEC cellar dwellers.

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comparing ASU, WSU and Oregon State to vandy, miss state, and Kentucky is ridiculous. ASU was one play away from winning a national championship only 10 years ago. Oregon State won the fiesta bowl 6 years ago and 9 games last year. Washington State went to the rose bowl twice in the last 15 years. None of the bottom feeders of the SEC have achieved anything close to this.
 
#167
#167
Miss. St. made the conference title game in the past ten years and Ole Miss has played in the Cotton Bowl in the past ten years so actually they have.
 
#168
#168
I do agree with this...notice how the Pac 10 only has one "horrible team"

The main point I was trying to make is that the SEC's bottom dwellers aren't any worse than most of the other conferences.

Agree?
 
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#170
Ericvol2096 said:
I do agree with this...notice how the Pac 10 only has one "horrible team"

The main point I was trying to make is that the SEC's bottom dwellers aren't any worse than most of the other conferences.

Agree?
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I think they are worse, but not a lot worse. I only post these things to contradict the "vandy would dominate in any other conference" comments we see here.
 
#172
#172
If the PAC-10 had more perennial powerhouse programs like USC (like the SEC has with Florida, UT, Georgia, LSU, and Auburn), then the PAC-10 would have more permanent cellar dwellers in their conference too. The consistent powerhouse programs in the SEC beat the crap out of the lesser teams, thus giving them hideous records. Before the Pete Caroll era at USC, the PAC-10 didn't have a single dominant program. It just had a lot of mediocre to terrible football, so no wonder there are not many hideous records in the PAC-10. The poor programs in the PAC-10 only have to chalk up one definite loss every year - to USC.
 
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droski said:
I think they are worse, but not a lot worse. I only post these things to contradict the "vandy would dominate in any other conference" comments we see here.
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Having just made my prior post, I'll now comment on this post. Vandy would not dominate in ANY BCS conference. However, they would have a better chance of being a middle of the pack program if they weren't forced to play the likes of UT, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, and Alabama on a regular basis.
 
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Vol423 said:
If the PAC-10 had more perennial powerhouse programs like USC (like the SEC has with Florida, UT, Georgia, LSU, and Auburn), then the PAC-10 would have more permanent cellar dwellers in their conference too. The consistent powerhouse programs in the SEC beat the crap out of the lesser teams, thus giving them hideous records.
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I agree in principle with what you are saying, but those teams non conference records indicate otherwise. Remember they play 4 non conference games (compared to 3 with pac-10 teams). Look at Kentucky last year. They beat georgia (who was down) and no other decent programs and still made a bowl game. The fact is the SEC has had years where most of the perrienial powers have been down and these teams still haven't done well. I still contend that the bottom of the SEC is worse than the bottom of the pac-10. But of course you guys have more teams too.
 
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