Pac-10 Expansion (merged)

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Where does everybody think the Pac-10/Big-16/whatever ends up in the college football landscape if this deal goes through?
 
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milohimself said:
Where does everybody think the Pac-10/Big-16/whatever ends up in the college football landscape if this deal goes through?
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they still need a big TV contract....but since that move, if it were to happen, means that the Big 10 would expand in the area as well (get Saint Louis and Kansas City)....I'm going to say (Assuming the new TV deal is huge) financial wise the conference ends up 2nd in revenue, at worst 3rd
 
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Not revenue. In terms of who is the best. The addition of Texas and Oklahoma in my mind has to put this "Big-16" neck and neck with the SEC, regardless of who the SEC adds. You're talking Miami and FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech... Decent for media expansion, sure, but I don't think that makes the conference any better.
 
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milohimself said:
Where does everybody think the Pac-10/Big-16/whatever ends up in the college football landscape if this deal goes through?
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as far as the competition goes the SEC stays #1.
sure you add the tx/ou game and possibly a yearly usc battle with an annual top 10 team but thats not enough to de-throne the SEC. even if the SEC doesnt add anyone they would still have better competition top to bottom
 
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milohimself said:
Not revenue. In terms of who is the best. The addition of Texas and Oklahoma in my mind has to put this "Big-16" neck and neck with the SEC, regardless of who the SEC adds. You're talking Miami and FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech... Decent for media expansion, sure, but I don't think that makes the conference any better.
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Texas, OU, USC make a very compelling case.

You may be right about Miami now, but they have a good chance to get back up sooner or later. Too bad for Larry Coker. They followed up excellent coaches with more excellent coaches before they got him. Too bad. If Butch Davis never leaves, I think he's won at least 3 national titles this decade, and possibly more.
 
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milohimself said:
Not revenue. In terms of who is the best. The addition of Texas and Oklahoma in my mind has to put this "Big-16" neck and neck with the SEC, regardless of who the SEC adds. You're talking Miami and FSU, Clemson, Georgia Tech... Decent for media expansion, sure, but I don't think that makes the conference any better.
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Well honestly, revenue's what all these expansion moves are about.

You're asking an SEC board, so the answer you're going to get most on this board is SEC.

It just depends on who wins championships when. You seem to be asking immediately though (though the idea of saying that FSU and Miami are going to be forever bad - since of how recently they were good in their programs - would be like saying Tennessee is destined to stay in a 5 to 7 win range based on the last 3-6 years), it'd be about even honestly.
 
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Yeah, I'm only asking in terms of the next three maybe four years. Obviously it'd be hard to predict anything after then. Maybe we rise back to power. Maybe Alabama and Florida get the death penalty (pleasepleasepleaseplease).
 
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milohimself said:
Yeah, I'm only asking in terms of the next three maybe four years. Obviously it'd be hard to predict anything after then. Maybe we rise back to power. Maybe Alabama and Florida get the death penalty (pleasepleasepleaseplease).
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even though i dont like them, I dont want anything that bad to happen to them unless they do something to absolutely deserve it

...cause then we'd have no rivals :cray:
 
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Or their hands tied behind their backs so we can bash their brains in for a few years.

Then the death penalty. :)
 
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I'd prefer none of the conferences expand but there's always more money to be made.
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chavisut said:
Am I the only one that doesn't want SEC expansion?
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I'm not really for it but I also realize that if the big 10 and pac 10 do it that we have no real option and at that point I want us to do whatever it takes to make the best move.
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FWIW, this would be the probable set up...

Pacific/West/PAC-8 Division

Washington
Washington St.
Oregon
Oregon St.
UCLA
Stanford
Cal
USC

Inland/Southwest Conference

Colorado
Texas
Texas Tech
Texas A&M
Arizona
Arizona State
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State


If this happens, this is just going to be awesome, and then set off a chain reaction of the Big 10 and SEC also wanting in on the expansion party.
 
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Looks like the recommendation might be made today.

Pac-10 commissioner reportedly will recommend expansion - Sporting News staff reports - College Football - Sporting News

Pac-10 commissioner Larry Scott will recommend to his league's school presidents and chancellors that the conference add six Big 12 teams, Chip Brown of OrangeBloods.com reports via Twitter.

Scott will make the recommendation Sunday, according to Brown, who last week broke the news that the conference was prepared to invite Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State and Colorado. The Pac-10 meetings conclude Sunday in San Francisco.
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