Pacman Jones

#76
#76
If the man wants to go to strip clubs, he should go to strip clubs. He's old enough, and should have never told anyone he would not go to strip clubs. I don't want to live in a world where my going to strip clubs affects my standing at my job.

Now once he is found guilty of something, my tune will change. This situation, however, seems to just be completely overblown. I agree with Stunna in that he probably did absolutely nothing this time, and think that these "witnesses" were probably just running their mouths.
 
#77
#77
StunnA N' Orange said:
Actually Papa, the police have said they think he had no involvement in what occurred in and outside the club. They're just seeking him for information on where and what some of his entourage was doing that night.
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Please scroll up to post 57, in which I quoted an AJC article from today in which an Atlanta deputy police chief says that witnesses place Jones in the club and involved in the argument that preceded the shooting. If you have a link to a legitimate source in which the Atlanta police say they've decided the witnesses aren't credible, please share it.
 
#78
#78
allvol123 said:
Can you point out the contradictions? Unrelated? That is why the cops questioned him. I'll steal one from Vercingetorix and say that "unrelated" has a different meaning in your world than mine. I think Pac has been taking advice from you. You are about the only one that I have seen using reasoning as ineptly as he does.

I edit, you are not the only one. It must be a conference call between you, Pac, and Stunna.
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Here we go. You say that Pac is going down because Goodell is concerned about his behavior. Pac isn't present at an incident. How can his behavior in regard to that particular incident be in question?
 
#80
#80
allvol123 said:
This is just really funny to me for some reason. Like you thought his attorney is going to come out and say how involved he was in this matter.

Also, why did the police only discredit most of their claims? A few words earlier you say the witnesses are 100% incorrect.
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Looks like a mention to me.
 
#81
#81
StunnA N' Orange said:
Actually Papa, the police have said they think he had no involvement in what occurred in and outside the club. They're just seeking him for information on where and what some of his entourage was doing that night.
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rarely do we know the majority of the story this early after an incident. All the police have to go on is the word of PacMan (for what it's worth), strip joint patrons (ditto), the entourage (double ditto) or strip joint employees / management (ditto). Piecing this think together will take some time.

Personally, I couldn't care less about the outcome, but I do know that the word of the cops or Pacs attorney at this time is no more trustworthy than the word of the patrons. Given PacMan's track record, I'd have a very hard time giving him the benefit of the doubt if I were involved.
 
#83
#83
allvol123 said:
No, just a P-man homer. I have read plenty of those posts. Good job at clarifying the other matters.
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I'm a fan of just treatment. I don't see why Pac's crimes deserve harsher treatment than Chris Henry's or Tank Johnson. If Pac is suspended for a season, it's no skin off my back. He'll still be rich and a franchise I don't care about will lose a starter. I'd just like to see the punishments equal out.
 
#84
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kptvol said:
I'm a fan of just treatment. I don't see why Pac's crimes deserve harsher treatment than Chris Henry's or Tank Johnson. If Pac is suspended for a season, it's no skin off my back. He'll still be rich and a franchise I don't care about will lose a starter. I'd just like to see the punishments equal out.
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I think the sheer volume of the appearance of impropriety is what swayed Goodell. I think he was harsh, but he did send a very clear message to the league.
 
#85
#85
BigPapaVol said:
I think the sheer volume of the appearance of impropriety is what swayed Goodell. I think he was harsh, but he did send a very clear message to the league.
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I'm sure of the exact number of incidents, but Chris Henry can't be too far behind Jones.

Also, Henry has convictions. I think those are a lot more damning than accusations. I suppose that all depends on one's opinion, however.
 
#86
#86
kptvol said:
I'm a fan of just treatment. I don't see why Pac's crimes deserve harsher treatment than Chris Henry's or Tank Johnson. If Pac is suspended for a season, it's no skin off my back. He'll still be rich and a franchise I don't care about will lose a starter. I'd just like to see the punishments equal out.
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Regardless of whether the penalties were just, he knows he is treading on thin ice and still continues to screw around. Therefore, I consider him an idiot.
 
#87
#87
allvol123 said:
Regardless of whether the penalties were just, he knows he is treading on thin ice and still continues to screw around. Therefore, I consider him an idiot.
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Fair enough. As for the penalties, I think Chris Henry's latest transgression will probably result in him getting the Pac-Man treatment. At least, I assume. I was out of town for that one so I didn't get all the specifics.
 
#90
#90
Here's a suggestion for all you Volnation posters in the Nashville area. When you're enjoying a night at the local strip joint and Pacman and his entourage walk through the door, go the hell home.

Don't make yourself their next target. :machgun:
 
#92
#92
Vol423 said:
Here's a suggestion for all you Volnation posters in the Nashville area. When you're enjoying a night at the local strip joint and Pacman and his entourage walk through the door, go the hell home.

Don't make yourself their next target. :machgun:
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And if he is with Ron Mercer, well, pray.
 
#93
#93
Just throwing this out there:

If his involvement was inconsequential then why hasn't he gone to meet with the police yet?

If he hasn't done anything wrong and his attorney knows the police are looking to speak to him (not to mention it is on every media outlet) why wouldn't he go speak with them?
 
#94
#94
here's the way i look at it........first, it's not illegal to go to a strip club.

and yes, he was not at the scene of the shooting. but everything i've heard is that witnesses have said he left to go get his gun.

but at the end of the day to me, this has little to do with the legal ramifications or lack thereof for Pac.

it has more to do with the behavior he displays over and over again, w/out any acknowledgement of the consequences he has and might face as a result.

he's been in trouble before, for being at the wrong place at the wrong time so to speak.

so at some point, it has to register with him to stop putting himself in a position to be in that wrong place at the wrong time.

that is what has apparently not happened. I don't really care if we as there or not, i don't even really care if he left to go get his gun or not. what boggle my mind is that one week after all the stuff he's been thru with Goodell and all the proclimations of how he's going to change, he's back at a strip club in south ATL at 4 a.m. with the same crowd that he's always with.

he simply hasn't learned yet. and for that, given the career and multi million dollars he may be throwing down the drain as result of not learning, when it's been explicitly explained to you, does make him, in fact an idiot.
 
#98
#98
Las Vegas officials have issued 2 felony charges against the P-man for coercion. Not a law man so not sure how serious this is.
 
#100
#100
Vercingetorix said:
Can't this guy just hire some strippers to come entertain him and his friends at his house?
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That was my first comment when I heard this story. If I were him I would just have a stripper pole installed in my house and have them make house calls.
 
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