Pats Stealing Signals?

#78
#78
hatvol96 said:
I'm a Bengals fan. I also would probably be considered a fairly diehard Raider fan. Therefore, I'm eminently qualified to discuss garbage football.
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Both have been great at times and about as bad as you can be too.
 
#81
#81
Not this year. If they had any real intentions of him playing this year, they wouldn't have signed Culpepper and McKown and dragged their feet in negotiating his contract.
 
#84
#84
hatvol96 said:
Not this year. If they had any real intentions of him playing this year, they wouldn't have signed Culpepper and McKown and dragged their feet in negotiating his contract.
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word has it that he is under increasing pressure from agent and TEAMMATES to not settle on the contract negotiation. it appears that there are several team members on the Raiders that would love nothing more htan JR to stick it to Al Davis. He, himself anyway, has apparently come close to settling it, and has been convinced each time to stay the course.

wonder how all this will every play out for the Raiders...they may be a bad football team for a long time to come.
 
#85
#85
What the Raidets need to do is get rid of their malcontents. I would bet my next 6 months salary that Jerry Porter is one of the ringleaders of the problems you describe.
 
#86
#86
hatvol96 said:
What the Raidets need to do is get rid of their malcontents. I would bet my next 6 months salary that Jerry Porter is one of the ringleaders of the problems you describe.
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you are probably 100% correct on that. it's not like he's been secretitive with his feelings on AD.
 
#88
#88
superdave1984 said:
I read that about possibly taking some draft picks. I think that's a bad plan. Make them forfeit the game instead. Don't punish them in the future for what they did now. Make it hurt now. How would it feel for them to (hypothetically) go 16-0, win the super bowl, but have to forfeit the game on opening day?
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If I was Goddell, I would make Pats play entire with out their entire coaching staff!
 
#89
#89
droski said:
didn't russell just sign?
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According to a site called Footballguys he has (reported yesterday)

The other big news is that it finally looks like Oakland and JaMarcus Russell have
reached an agreement according to FoxSports.com. Russell will start off as the #3
QB but with Josh McCown and Daunte Culpepper ahead of him, it's not hard to see him
starting at some point down the road. With his physical abilities and huge size,
he's a guy they might feel a little more comfortable throwing in there than they would
a smaller QB.
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#90
#90
hatvol96 said:
The only thing that matters in the NFL is your record. If the opposition is careless enough to have their signals stolen, that's their problem. Belichick moves up several notches in my eyes with these actions.
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This logic befuddles me.

Blaming victims of crimes (cheating, stealing, whatever) is asinine.

Neither Mangini nor any coach should have to guard against cheating of this sort. If they did, the NFL would be no different from the mafia.

Most people (like me) don't watch or follow sports to witness an ability to cheat and prevail. We do it to witness greatness of skill, strategy, and art. Cheating undermines that. Belichick got caught cheating, therefore he goes way down in my eyes.
 
#92
#92
Calling a football coach who knew the other side was stealing his signs and did nothing to prevent it a "victim of crime" is the height of silliness.
 
#93
#93
The vast majority of NFL fans watch the games with one thing in mind: victory for their team. If pro football fans were a bunch of crybaby moralists, guys like Leonard Little wouldn't be on the field.
 
#96
#96
Jets could not have beat the Pats if he gave them their playbook so this sign stealing gag is cry baby BS. All this story tells me is more teams should steal signs.
 
#97
#97
What are you kiddin me? They had a hardcore sting operation going on. They are still looking at the audio interfering they were doing. As much at NFL guys practice for particular situations, you let any team know exactly what is coming by the way of run, pass, etc. It can be stopped. I understand the players had nothing to do with it, but its still really dirty.
 
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#100
hatvol96 said:
The vast majority of NFL fans watch the games with one thing in mind: victory for their team. If pro football fans were a bunch of crybaby moralists, guys like Leonard Little wouldn't be on the field.
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there's some truth to that. in fact, one could argue that the NFL is the most corrupt professional sports league out there today, despite the MLB steroids/HGH and NBA perception issues (and i don't like the NBA keep in mind).
 
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