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#27
#27
So setting the Constitution aside so the bourgeois run the show will make everything better neocon? Really?
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#28
#28
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My idea of a perfect government is one guy who sits in a small room at a desk, and the only thing he’s allowed to decide is who to nuke. The man is chosen based on some kind of IQ test, and maybe also a physical tournament, like a decathlon. And women are brought to him, maybe ... when he desires them.
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#29
#29
JTrainDavis said:
So setting the Constitution aside so the bourgeois run the show will make everything better neocon? Really?
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Ok, I'll be the guy to say it.

Yes.

This country is being ran now by people who are voted in on catch phrases. The majority of voters couldn't find their ass in a dark room without someone taking their hand and placing it there.

I don't want 18-25 year old college kids who have no clue how to balance and check book, haven't held a job yet, still live off mommy and daddy having the power to put a moron in place who could change my business structure drastically and is out to make the unemployed, lazy, and stupid happy anyway he can because they have more votes than me.

The reality is politicians are now pandering to the poor and lazy of this country. They don't want to cut the entitlements because then they lose their voters. So guys like me keep getting more and more of my income sucked away to help pay for some crack head white trash guy living in a trailer who doesn't want to work.

F that.

You place a a minimum price tag on the right to vote and suddenly only people with jobs begin voting. I want a country ran by people who are actually trying to make something off themselves.

Politicians play to the crowd. There are way more entitlement voters than there are working voters. That's a fact. Change the voters, you change the type of politician you get.
 
#30
#30
nbakerld said:
Huh? A tax is not part of this hypothetical.

So do you have a reason why you think it's an awful idea? Or was the additional hypothetical what led you to believe the original is a bad idea?
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So was his post about 40% just keeping it and not voting.

It's an awful idea because it has ZERO chance of ever happening.

:good!:
 
#31
#31
I have a problem with kids 18-25 being forced to sign up with selective service, but yet have no voice in who commander in chief is.
 
#33
#33
rmsmith said:
I have a problem with kids 18-25 being forced to sign up with selective service, but yet have no voice in who commander in chief is.
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GI's are bullet sponges under neocons plan, and they won't come from.the ruling class. Hakuna Matata.
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#34
#34
rmsmith said:
I have a problem with kids 18-25 being forced to sign up with selective service, but yet have no voice in who commander in chief is.
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do you have a problem with a 16 year old being taxed andnot being able to vote.

We could always boohoo about something.

I also understand that you are talking about what would happen in my scenerio.
 
#35
#35
nbakerld said:
We could cut about 66 of the 67 federal financial education programs (they're such effective programs they can't even tell us what their combined budget is).
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so one handout is taken away to provide for another? Not sure I'm for that
 
#36
#36
VOLinthaATL said:
what?
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NEOCON said:
I don't want 18-25 year old college kids who have no clue how to balance and check book, haven't held a job yet, still live off mommy and daddy having the power to put a moron in place who could change my business structure drastically and is out to make the unemployed, lazy, and stupid happy anyway he can because they have more votes than me.
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#37
#37
NEOCON said:
do you have a problem with a 16 year old being taxed andnot being able to vote.

We could always boohoo about something.

I also understand that you are talking about what would happen in my scenerio.
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Well they choose to work. registering for selective service is not a choice.
 
#40
#40
Will admit, if my son was 18 and was drafted he'd be on the first plane out of the country or I'd be finding whoever I needed to pay to get his name removed.
 
#42
#42
Some folks are born silver spoon in hand
Lord, don't they help themselves, oh
But when the taxman comes to the door
Lord, the house looks like a rummage sale, yes
 
#44
#44
JTrainDavis said:
Because rules don't apply to you correct? Let the poor fight.
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I'm not a fan of the draft period. Vietnam was a waste and killed off more poor than anything. I don't want the poor dying in a draft. I want the poor getting educated, getting support, and getting jobs. I want everyone to have the American dream.

Poor does not equal lazy.

I make more in a week than my grandmother made in a year. My grandmother was 1000x a harder worker than me and worked until she died. There are tons of poor who need help and fall through the cracks because the lazy make more noise.
 
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#48
NEOCON said:
I'm not a fan of the draft period. Vietnam was a waste and killed off more poor than anything. I don't want the poor dying in a draft. I want the poor getting educated, getting support, and getting jobs. I want everyone to have the American dream.

Poor does not equal lazy.

I make more in a week than my grandmother made in a year. My grandmother was 1000x a harder worker than me and worked until she died. There are tons of poor who need help and fall through the cracks because the lazy make more noise.
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So your grandmother should have had to choose between food and lodging, or voting. How nice.
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