Pearl's Already Gone: The Exit Strategy Hypothesis

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Why are we not talking about John Pelphrey to replace Pearl. He can probably keep the recruiting class we have and maybe bring his top-5 class to Knoxville. He would run a clean program and continue to get us to the NCAA.
 
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Tenacious D said:
LWS explained it earlier, ITT.

The bump infraction - some four days after the presser - was not known for some time later, and caught both MH and Slive completely unaware.

Strike 3 for Pearl.
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Thanks.I had read that come to think of it. I believe he is done too but was confused when UT seemed to downplay the "bump" and vow to fight it. I thought that may indicate them fighting for Pearl. I just think the lack of support since the LOA is speaks volumes. Am I reading too much into not having a presser after the LOA? I hear people say the Admin has voiced support but I haven't heard support voiced since UT got the letter, other than the statements that were released. Could have just missed it.
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crucdvol said:
Why are we not talking about John Pelphrey to replace Pearl. He can probably keep the recruiting class we have and maybe bring his top-5 class to Knoxville. He would run a clean program and continue to get us to the NCAA.
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Good one.
 
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kidbourbon said:
I do think the question of whether UT is realistically a destination job is a good one.

Assume we hired Bill Self instead of Jerry Green, and assume further that Self had a great deal of success. Would he still be here? Or would he have taken another position that he believed to be -- and what could objectively be viewed as -- an upgrade.
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It is a valid point. Three thoughts:

1. Had it not been for a series of the most severe and egregious (albeit self-inflicted) missteps imaginable, this would have undoubtedly been a destination job for Pearl. Proof that there are some who could see it as such, if not immediately, then sometime thereafter.

2. There are more non-destination jobs than not, and yet, many of these schools have no problem maintaining success at a high level despite inevitable coaching changes (Hat pointed out earlier, each of Xavier's last six hires have been winners)

3. While its debateable as to whether Tennessee is a "destination" job, but even if not, the gap to those which are considered to be has significantly closed in the last few years, given our success, national exposure, facilities, fan interest, game attendance, etc. We're likely not one of the Top 10 programs in the country (using nothing but my feeling to make that measurement), but I believe that we're solidly in the Top 20 -25 - meaning, there are far fewer "destination" programs who could lure our coach away, than not. And even then, it wouldn't be a given.
 
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Scottyhop said:
You could make the same argument about wether Tennessee football is a destination job.
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depends on definition of destination for both basketball and football.

There are definitely several jobs in both sports that would likely be able to pull UT coaches to them... outside of a coach at UT that played at UT, those schools would likely be able to make that sell...
 
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LWSVOL said:
depends on definition of destination for both basketball and football.

There are definitely several jobs in both sports that would likely be able to pull UT coaches to them... outside of a coach at UT that played at UT, those schools would likely be able to make that sell...
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Larry - heard its someone's to refuse. Hearing same?
 
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LWSVOL said:
have not. be surprised. would mean Hammy safe....
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I'm a little bit confused. So if it's been offered, Hammy is safe. But if not, he's not safe? Are we really going to change ADs before a new hire is made? Or am I just missing something?
 
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Incipient said:
I'm a little bit confused. So if it's been offered, Hammy is safe. But if not, he's not safe? Are we really going to change ADs before a new hire is made? Or am I just missing something?
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I think he's saying he thinks Hamilton will be gone. If we have a new coach, it means that Hamilton wouldn't be gone.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I think he's saying he thinks Hamilton will be gone. If we have a new coach, it means that Hamilton wouldn't be gone.
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Exactly . . . because they'd never let Hamilton make the hire if they didn't intend to keep him around.
 
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Incipient said:
I'm a little bit confused. So if it's been offered, Hammy is safe. But if not, he's not safe? Are we really going to change ADs before a new hire is made? Or am I just missing something?
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I suppose the new AD could be internal hire therefore in on decision already
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LawVol13 said:
So, is he saying Pearl stays, Hamilton goes?
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No. He's saying that Pearl is gone, and he thinks Hamilton will be gone. He's saying that he doubts we have a new head coach picked because he thinks that would be a job for the new AD, not the one who would be forced out for incompetence. I'm not saying Hamilton would blow the hire, but if you were kicking him out, it wouldn't make sense to let him make the hire. It would be like firing your GM for being an idiot but letting him make your picks for the draft.
 
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tvolsfan said:
No. He's saying that Pearl is gone, and he thinks Hamilton will be gone. He's saying that he doubts we have a new head coach picked because he thinks that would be a job for the new AD, not the one who would be forced out for incompetence. I'm not saying Hamilton would blow the hire, but if you were kicking him out, it wouldn't make sense to let him make the hire. It would be like firing your GM for being an idiot but letting him make your picks for the draft.
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I see. Thanks for the clarification.
 
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Hamilton isn't making any hire. Whether he stays or goes, he isn't making hires.
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tvolsfan said:
No. He's saying that Pearl is gone, and he thinks Hamilton will be gone. He's saying that he doubts we have a new head coach picked because he thinks that would be a job for the new AD, not the one who would be forced out for incompetence. I'm not saying Hamilton would blow the hire, but if you were kicking him out, it wouldn't make sense to let him make the hire. It would be like firing your GM for being an idiot but letting him make your picks for the draft.
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Is it possible that the new AD is at UT already and signed off on candidates? For example, could they already have a plan for Holloway to take over and have a desired hire? Just hypothetically?
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OrangeInKy said:
Is it possible that the new AD is at UT already and signed off on candidates? For example, could they already have a plan for Holloway to take over and have a desired hire? Just hypothetically?
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I'm not in the know, but I suppose it's possible.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
I suppose the new AD could be internal hire therefore in on decision already
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That's the only thing that makes sense. I was just thinking we didn't have time to run an AD search and then have the new AD run a coaching search. But if we already have an internal hire. . .
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'm not in the know, but I suppose it's possible.
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Probably a stretch on my part, it just seems like UT never goes outside for an AD hire. Also, if they did,seems like thay search in itself would take a while and would be hard to pull off and have the new AD make a coaching hire in time to make a good hire. I am probably overthinking it
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