Penn State scandal (merged)

@DrunkJohnny:

If Paterno knew that Sandusky admitted to the 1998 incident, then Paterno should have done everything in his power to keep Sandusky from ever stepping foot back on campus. If Paterno knew that Sandusky was investigated in 1998 and that the charges were dropped, then I do not think he has an obligation to keep Sandusky off the premises even after the 2002 incident, if he reported it to the AD with the expectation (which I see as reasonable) that the AD would investigate.

Some on here think that Paterno has a moral duty to follow up on the investigation; I do not. I think one can reasonable assume that when a person in an authority position says that they will do something, that they will do it. I think it is reasonable to assume that Paterno thought that Curley and Schultz were telling him the truth, and that an investigation was taking place. Paterno, as someone who was not a witness to the event, would not, as I see it, have to be involved in the investigation. Therefore, he could reasonably not know whether or not an investigation was happening, unless he then asked Sandusky if Sandusky had been questioned (I am not even sure if that would be legal), the same can be said with regard to McQueary.

Some individuals are naturally curious and would follow up just to see how the investigation is going; some individuals are not curious, yet have trust that the system works and that their superiors are honest individuals.

Without the details of exactly what Paterno knew and when he knew it, I do not see grounds to crucify him. I hope there is a civil case against Paterno so that these questions will have answers.
 
but i'm giving paterno the benefit of the doubt by believing that sandusky could've told him he guy saw it wrong. Who you going to believe? a coach that has been on your staff for a long time or some GA?

The GA because Paterno already knew of the 1998 accusations and investigation. In any scenario, you take the GA's report seriously.
 
@DrunkJohnny:

If Paterno knew that Sandusky admitted to the 1998 incident, then Paterno should have done everything in his power to keep Sandusky from ever stepping foot back on campus. If Paterno knew that Sandusky was investigated in 1998 and that the charges were dropped, then I do not think he has an obligation to keep Sandusky off the premises even after the 2002 incident, if he reported it to the AD with the expectation (which I see as reasonable) that the AD would investigate.
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Well, at least we have your position now. I don't see how it's possible to think that Paterno shouldn't have had to keep the ass hole off the facilities after an eyewitness sees him raping a child, but if you do, that's your prerogative.
 
Oh man, you are reaching. Baldwin clearly stated that this "situation" is sad, and it is. And I seriously doubt that Kutcher is familiar with the details, he's just reacting as a football fan.

OR, it could be they both "sympathize" with Paterno because they weren't raised as poor dumb ignorant backwoods hicks in Tennessee? lol

Reaching?
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@DrunkJohnny:

If Paterno knew that Sandusky admitted to the 1998 incident, then Paterno should have done everything in his power to keep Sandusky from ever stepping foot back on campus. If Paterno knew that Sandusky was investigated in 1998 and that the charges were dropped, then I do not think he has an obligation to keep Sandusky off the premises even after the 2002 incident, if he reported it to the AD with the expectation (which I see as reasonable) that the AD would investigate.

Some on here think that Paterno has a moral duty to follow up on the investigation; I do not. I think one can reasonable assume that when a person in an authority position says that they will do something, that they will do it. I think it is reasonable to assume that Paterno thought that Curley and Schultz were telling him the truth, and that an investigation was taking place. Paterno, as someone who was not a witness to the event, would not, as I see it, have to be involved in the investigation. Therefore, he could reasonably not know whether or not an investigation was happening, unless he then asked Sandusky if Sandusky had been questioned (I am not even sure if that would be legal), the same can be said with regard to McQueary.

Some individuals are naturally curious and would follow up just to see how the investigation is going; some individuals are not curious, yet have trust that the system works and that their superiors are honest individuals.

Without the details of exactly what Paterno knew and when he knew it, I do not see grounds to crucify him. I hope there is a civil case against Paterno so that these questions will have answers.
Your making some giant reaches here, and basically painting Joe Paterno as the biggest dumbass in the history of college football.

I do not, however, think it was likely for the administration at PSU to force Sandusky's retirement without Paterno knowing exactly what went down.
 
Again, you don't have enough details to draw any conclusions. Was child rape just invented... no. Was it a topic of dinner conversation at the Paterno household.... doubt it.

You don't have enough information to draw that conclusion. By your logic maybe he and sandusky discussed it over Christmas dinner.
 
Reaching?
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Go talk to alumvol08

"I think that Kutcher already withdrew his support and said later that he didn't have a clue about the scandal."

Yeah, its a reach. Baldwin clearly was commenting on the situation. Duh! Unless of course you disagree that this is a sad situation, in which case someone will likely call you a pedophile and child rapist and ask you if you are the president of NAMBLA.
 
Darwinism did you happen to shower with grown men as a preteen? Because I think I've about connected the dots with the Paterno defenders.
 
You don't have enough information to draw that conclusion. By your logic maybe he and sandusky discussed it over Christmas dinner.

What horse-****! I haven't even seen any reports of Paterno even being associated with Sandusky after his retirement but by your stupid logic they probably went fishing 3-4 times a week where they could ponder the sweet prospect of ass raping 10 year olds in the football locker room!

It aint no stretch to believe that none of this was a dinner topic at Mrs Paterno's table, and if you think it was then you are a complete idiot.
 

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