Penn State scandal (merged)

#851
#851
milohimself said:
By God, I hope I would have stopped it and gone straight to the police if I witnessed what he witnessed. But I have not, nor have you, and I am not him, nor are you, and neither of us are God, judge or jury, so who are we to judge him?
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I have every right to judge him for being useless in stopping a heinous act. I am 100% that I personally would have acted completely different than he did
 
#853
#853
LawVol13 said:
I think he should be judged as should anyone in his situation. Allowing child rape to occur simply because you're either a pussy or worried abou your job isn't excusable under any circumstances.
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Not sure how people like Milo sleep at night, but I literally couldn't sleep the night this came out, just can't imagine this being able to have gone on for so long. My wife was in tears because of people like Milo making the people involved in the cover up out to be victims. Sucks.
 
#854
#854
knucklehead_vol said:
You suck. I am so pissed that you are actually blind to what happened I can hardly type.

You are a pathetic human, scum. If I heard and saw what was happening, I would react. That reaction would be to help the kid.

You are no better than those ****ers at the school that let this happen.
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Take a breather, man. I am not blind to the situation. Vile, vile things happened, and Sandusky and the people who let it happen are going to answer for those crimes.

YorkVol said:
Yeah, he didn't run the university but if anyone could have stopped this dead in its tracks it was JoPa. Pre-internet days, he could fix a ticket and bail a player out of jail faster than anyone in the state. All he had to do was say the word and Sandusky would have been behind bars within the hour. He didn't do that.
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I somehow get the feeling people are attributing much more power and sway to JoePa than he actually had.

knucklehead_vol said:
Me too. Milo is exact opposite of what I thought of him to be, very disappointing.
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Because I'm not apparently ready to get the torches and pitchforks together over something none of us are fully aware of?

LawVol13 said:
Yes, you could say that this is how you handle this situation. Does that prevent you from notifying the police? Absolutely not. I mean, is penn state going to sue him because he notified the authorities about a serial child rapist? Somehow, I wouldnt see that being a good PR move.
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The point is this: There is protocol for such a situation, and he followed it. Maybe JoePa could have done more, but the onus was on the AD to contact the authorities, which he didn't do, and now he's being tried for it.
 
#855
#855
This may have already been addressed... but, why did the mothers of the two children speak out on the staff just recently?

I dunno if I'm wording that correctly. Just, not sure when exactly the children came out and told their sides of it? And if it was a long time ago, why did it take this long for the story to blow up?
 
#856
#856
utvolpj said:
I have every right to judge him for being useless in stopping a heinous act. I am 100% that I personally would have acted completely different than he did
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And I am 100% that anybody who speculates with certainty on what they would do in such an extreme circumstance is talking out of their ass.
 
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#857
LawVol13 said:
I think he should be judged as should anyone in his situation. Allowing child rape to occur simply because you're either a pussy or worried abou your job isn't excusable under any circumstances.
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You don't know why it happened.
 
#858
#858
milohimself said:
And I am 100% that anybody who speculates with certainty on what they would do in such an extreme circumstance is talking out of their ass.
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nope not at all. There is no part of me that would walk away without doing anything. Just doesn't exist

you may still be confused as to what you would do but many are not
 
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milohimself said:
Take a breather, man. I am not blind to the situation. Vile, vile things happened, and Sandusky and the people who let it happen are going to answer for those crimes.



I somehow get the feeling people are attributing much more power and sway to JoePa than he actually had.



Because I'm not apparently ready to get the torches and pitchforks together over something none of us are fully aware of?


The point is this: There is protocol for such a situation, and he followed it. Maybe JoePa could have done more, but the onus was on the AD to contact the authorities, which he didn't do, and now he's being tried for it.
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The point is this: they should all be charged as heavily as possible. They could indict everyone involved. Then, let the chips fall where they may. If Joepa really had no idea or something, he would be exonerated.
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utvolpj said:
nope not at all. There is no part of me that would walk away without doing anything. Just doesn't exist

you may still be confused as to what you would do but many are not
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It's only talk until you find yourself in just such a situation. I hope you would.
 
#863
#863
LawVol13 said:
The point is this: they should all be charged as heavily as possible. They could indict everyone involved. Then, let the chips fall where they may. If Joepa really had no idea or something, he would be exonerated.
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I completely agree with this.
 
#864
#864
milohimself said:
It's only talk until you find yourself in just such a situation. I hope you would.
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no it's not. Similar situations exist and I know what my reaction was then. Making the assumption I would react in a similar manner is not "only talk"
 
#865
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milohimself said:
You don't know why it happened.
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Please. You act as if stopping child rape requires someone to be a superhero. It doesn't. It just requires someone to have some common decency and a moral compass. The only way you do as the GA did is if you had neither. There is no possible scenario under which his doing nothing is acceptable.
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LawVol13 said:
Please. You act as if stopping child rape requires someone to be a superhero. It doesn't. It just requires someone to have some common decency and a moral compass. The only way you do as the GA did is if you had neither. There is no possible scenario under which his doing nothing is acceptable.
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I guarantee you have not been in that heavy of a situation, so I can guarantee you do not now with any certainty just what you would do.
 
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#869
milohimself said:
And I am 100% that anybody who speculates with certainty on what they would do in such an extreme circumstance is talking out of their ass.
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I apologize Milo, but this is a very disturbing situation, it will get heated because of that. I am certain I would have helped the kid, not certain to what extent. With my track record I just don't know, but at the very least I would have taken the kid away from him. There is no way I could have left a kid behind like that, no way. And no way he would have been allowed to be back on that campus.

Just for an example. My childs daycare, I walked by a class, with the door shut, but all the doors do have tinted windows, I saw the 'teacher' hit three kids with a brush. I walked in, made sure the kids were alright and notified the administration, right then and there. Did not hesitate, but my human instincts took over to make sure the kids were safe.
 
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#870
milohimself said:
I guarantee you have not been in that heavy of a situation, so I can guarantee you do not now with any certainty just what you would do.
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Again, I guarantee I wouldn't sit on my ass and allow multiple other kids to be raped. And I guarantee I would have attempted to stop his attack on a child. Any decent person would.
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milohimself said:
I guarantee you have not been in that heavy of a situation, so I can guarantee you do not now with any certainty just what you would do.
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I am 100% that anybody who speculates with certainty on someone else's experiences is talking out of their ass
 
#872
#872
Is it true that the DA basically let Sandusky walk in the late 90s?
 
#874
#874
zjcvols said:
Don't want to make light of the situation in any way, but the NCAA won't do anything.

While it'll be bad for the school's name, if they totally clean house, I think they can still win there even next year.
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I didn't mean it would go through a dark period because of the NCAA. I don't think any proven coach is going to want the job.
 
#875
#875
Dbake005 said:
Is it true that the DA basically let Sandusky walk in the late 90s?
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I don't know if they had the evidence to prosecute him at that time. That one might have not been on the DA. We'd need more info to make that call.
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