Pentagon Considering Ground Troops in Syria

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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
Every last bit of this has been declassified and most has been unredacted. I have pdf files of the Ted Stevens and Rand Corporation reports. It's ashame I can't post them here.

There was NO sane, moral reason for the Iraq war.

There's NO WAY IN **** a Sgt. had higher access to intel than the select senate intel committee.

Horse****.
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First part. Wrong. Not everything was declassified.

Second. Yes they do have higher access. But you apparently do not know how our Sensitive Compartmented information works. Outside of having eligibility, there is still a need to know. It has to be specific. Not gimme all you got on WMDs. That's not how it works. Clearances and access to sensitive classified information isn't determined by rank, it is determined by need to know. There is tons of classified information that even Senators on the Intelligence oversight committee do not have access to because they do not have a need to know. So there is your Horse S**T and I raise you BULL S**T.
 
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Pacer92 said:
I guess we just see the "support" of Ukraine in a different light. No apology needed....I think Ras and I saw it the same.

We saw the US undermine a democratically elected leader....thus, the country of Ukraine...
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FWIW, I think both the US and Russia were in the wrong. Unless an area or country poses a direct threat to regional stability or directly threatens our interests (and I am not talking influence in the region), then were should stay out of it. Russia, likewise, should not have used the guise of protecting the ethnic Russian minority.
 
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SergeantVol said:
First part. Wrong. Not everything was declassified.

Second. Yes they do have higher access. But you apparently do not know how our Sensitive Compartmented information works. Outside of having eligibility, there is still a need to know. It has to be specific. Not gimme all you got on WMDs. That's not how it works. Clearances and access to sensitive classified information isn't determined by rank, it is determined by need to know. There is tons of classified information that even Senators on the Intelligence oversight committee do not have access to because they do not have a need to know. So there is your Horse S**T and I raise you BULL S**T.
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So you know some specific "stuff" that the select senate intel committee didn't which constitutes the entire reason for the war?

I just busted out the report and will start spamming with my favorite parts if this goes on much further...
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
So you know some specific "stuff" that the select senate intel committee didn't which constitutes the entire reason for the war?

I just busted out the report and will start spamming with my favorite parts if this goes on much further...
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How many POTUS's do you think actually know what goes on at Area 51?
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
So you know some specific "stuff" that the select senate intel committee didn't which constitutes the entire reason for the war?

I just busted out the report and will start spamming with my favorite parts if this goes on much further...
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Never said it constitutes war. All I said was that not all of the information about the WMDs in Iraq has been released. But do go on with assumptions, I like hearing them.
 
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SergeantVol said:
Never said it constitutes war. All I said was that not all of the information about the WMDs in Iraq has been released. But do go on with assumptions, I like hearing them.
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...and it's stuff the SSIC, CIA, and IAEA wouldn't know.
 

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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
That first one was pretty great, nonetheless:
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Okay, you keep spouting off about the nuclear program and "restart" this and that.

What about the reports that WMDs were found. Chemical weapons that weren't destroyed. And we aren't talking about a couple or two warheads that got overlooked. Allegedly large stockpiles of munitions.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Okay, you keep spouting off about the nuclear program and "restart" this and that.

What about the reports that WMDs were found. Chemical weapons that weren't destroyed. And we aren't talking about a couple or two warheads that got overlooked. Allegedly large stockpiles of munitions.
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A lot of those weapons ended up in Syria
 
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Grand Vol said:
Okay, you keep spouting off about the nuclear program and "restart" this and that.

What about the reports that WMDs were found. Chemical weapons that weren't destroyed. And we aren't talking about a couple or two warheads that got overlooked. Allegedly large stockpiles of munitions.
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Bio - and there are pages in here of ISG findings that validate the conclusions reached on this jpeg.
 

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Grand Vol said:
Okay, you keep spouting off about the nuclear program and "restart" this and that.

What about the reports that WMDs were found. Chemical weapons that weren't destroyed. And we aren't talking about a couple or two warheads that got overlooked. Allegedly large stockpiles of munitions.
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No, no let him keep going. That deployment was a figment of my imagination. I mean a lowly Sergeant could have never worked with CIA, DTRA, and had to brief SecDef Rumsfeld and CENTCOM commander Gen. Franks via SVTC everyday. I was dreaming that stuff up. I have no idea what I'm talking about.
 
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SergeantVol said:
No, no let him keep going. That deployment was a figment of my imagination. I mean a lowly Sergeant could have never worked with CIA, DTRA, and had to brief SecDef Rumsfeld and CENTCOM commander Gen. Franks via SVTC everyday. I was dreaming that stuff up. I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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Not enough to justify a whole damn war and 4K+ dead.
 
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Bjorn_Yesterday said:
Not enough to justify a whole damn war and 4K+ dead.
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Never said it was hoss. Just said that all the information hasn't come out yet about the truth. All of the assertions leading up to the war that their program was bigger and stronger was false. But there's more.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Okay, you keep spouting off about the nuclear program and "restart" this and that.

What about the reports that WMDs were found. Chemical weapons that weren't destroyed. And we aren't talking about a couple or two warheads that got overlooked. Allegedly large stockpiles of munitions.
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Chemical.
 

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