Persecution of Christianity is becoming overt instead of covert.

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Orangeslice13 said:
Decided for yourself what you believe and allow others to do that for themselves.

or at least that’s what I do.
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Yes, and even within my own congregation I believe you'd find varying beliefs on certain things. So, how picky and judgemental one chooses to be is the question. And do you make it a point of division. Heck, you and I have a good many common beliefs and I'm CoC and your Messianic, and your kids went to a Christian HS. I think your situation is an example of finding what you can agree on, instead of what you don't like.
 
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GVF said:
I said nothing about taking away the liberty to own and bear arms. I'm just not all bent out of shape about having to do a background to buy a pistol. I got nothing to hide. Got a piece that spends half its time under the arm rest of my truck.
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Sorry but I have an ingrained distaste for capitulating to stupidity.
 
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NashVol11 said:
I think it's funny that your inability to read is me "changing the story" to you. The article says two other kids were having a conversation and then Missionary Kid started preaching to them. If the other kids asked him to do that, you better believe this PR piece for the dad would say so, galaxy brain
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Where does it say the bolded.. cuz even the article say it was part of a conversation from a year ago and that the kids may have set up the Christian kid..
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Where does it say the bolded.. cuz even the article say it was part of a conversation from a year ago and that the kids may have set up the Christian kid..
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I swear we are moving closer and closer to Idiocracy when people can't see through even the most obvious editorial BS. "Even the article" when the article is his dad's PR piece is such a dumb thing to say
 
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An actually correct way of using that phrase would be something like "the article is written overwhelmingly from the dad's perspective, and even that type of article doesn't 1. say anyone asked the kid anything, 2. say he was only doing his missionary thing one time as opposed to "continued behavior", or 3. say that the dad's vague threats through a lawyer resulted in anything or were viewed with any kind of merit by anyone else"

The article is just "here is my whining as a dad, we're victims even though everyone else at the school disagrees, listen to my grievances" lol. Taking that at face value is akin to believing that every high school benchwarmer is a superstar being held back by the coaches, with the source being "their parents said so"
 
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NashVol11 said:
I think it's funny that your inability to read is me "changing the story" to you. The article says two other kids were having a conversation and then Missionary Kid started preaching to them. If the other kids asked him to do that, you better believe this PR piece for the dad would say so, galaxy brain
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I think you should re-read slowly. You got the article twisted up.
 
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NashVol11 said:
OK, let me know where it says the other kids asked him anything :)
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"Several of the boy’s classmates had started a conversation during the previous school year about Christianity and his son had explained how they needed a relationship with Jesus Christ to go to Heaven."

Article does not specify if they were all involved in the conversation from the beginning, or if they were talking and he interjected.

But..the article does specify that an additional two others interjected themselves in the conversation and were the two who complained.

By default, that would seem to indicate that the original participants in the conversation including the christian had no issues with the conversation, only the additional two that did the complaining.

You twisted the article to bash a kid for cramming beliefs down others throats when that was not the case.
 
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GVF said:
True, but even then it was twisted up.
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I think each of you are reading into the article what you believe it says.

For instance, you seem to believe this kid was responding to the inquiries of other students. The article never goes that far.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
I think each of you are reading into the article what you believe it says.

For instance, you seem to believe this kid was responding to the inquiries of other students. The article never goes that far.
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That's exactly what I was saying. I clearly pointed out that the article did not specify if the student previously interjected himself in the conversation or if he was originally included in the conversation. So, to say he was cramming beliefs down the others throats was twisting up what was stated, which is all that's available.

My statement:
Article does not specify if they were all involved in the conversation from the beginning, or if they were talking and he interjected.
 
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GVF said:
That's exactly what I was saying. I clearly pointed out that the article did not specify if the student previously interjected himself in the conversation or if he was originally included in the conversation. So, to say he was cramming beliefs down the others throats was twisting up what was stated, which is all that's available.

My statement:
Article does not specify if they were all involved in the conversation from the beginning, or if they were talking and he interjected.
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It specifies continued behavior which does lend some credence to the proposition that this kid has been annoying people for a bit.
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
I know that is what most Muslims would proudly proclaim, and I haven't seen them attacked for it the way Christians are, because the left wouldn't dare. I personally would also fight for their right to say that. It's their faith.
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Ironically, that sort of exposure to different worldviews and cultures is exactly the type of diversity which universities say is "essential" to receiving a comprehensive education.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
The article is written entirely from one point of view without even a quote or statement from anyone else.
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In other words, the same type of "advocacy journalism" that is prevalent in every current "news" outlet.

There is no more "hard news." What is called "journalism" is in actuality nothing more than a series of op-eds.

Who's watching the Watchmen?
 
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Sgt_Nick_Fury said:
I know that is what most Muslims would proudly proclaim, and I haven't seen them attacked for it the way Christians are, because the left wouldn't dare. I personally would also fight for their right to say that. It's their faith.
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Really? You know the thoughts of most Muslims?
 
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volbound1700 said:
One misconception about the Middle East is that often it is more than about religion. A lot of times these different religious sects are also different nationalities so it is really more about race than religion.
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Yes, for example the PLO at one time had important Christian involvement.
 
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GVF said:
Article does not specify if they were all involved in the conversation from the beginning, or if they were talking and he interjected.
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Sure doesn't, which is why all of the drivel about how "they asked him" and "they set him up" is based on absolutely nothing. It does, however, reference continued i.e. repeated behavior.
 
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