Please DON'T start Nico [Nico merged]

[Block Party]

Milton isn’t the answer. Never was. Never will be. This is the perfect game to get Nico a lot of game experience and see what he can do. We aren’t gonna beat SC or A&M running the offense we’re currently running with Milton.

Nah SC and TAM will both blow us out at home with slow Joe at the helm.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Yay! Another "Let's get rid of the starting QB" thread. Nico may come in and set the world on fire, but what uf he doesn't? What if he overthrows a receiver, or (gasp) throws an interception?! Who will you get on your knees, throw your hands to the heavens and beg for then. How many different ways will this be expressed in the next 30 hours or so.

No, because he is a freshman. I can live with it. What I can't live with is watching at 6 year Sr do it.

 

[Crunch]

you are not gonna get anymore production out of Nico than you do Joe. Thats why he isnt starting. Hard for fans to grasp that. Glen E. needs to be put on the chopping block. Not having a true backup to Cooper Mays is inexcusable at this point.

How in the world would you possibly know that? Newsflash you don't know. None of us do including the coaches even.

From what I've seen so far Nico has better pocket awareness than Milton and can evade the rush better than him.

Good QBs make bad olines look a lot better than they are. Especially shifty ones.

Literally ANY QB would have looked better against Austin Peay than Milton.

Another thing is ...that interception by Milton literally was the dagger that lost us the Florida game early. Yeah the defense sucked ass but that one play fliped the field and put UF in scoring position immediately to go up by two scores early on. It was a dagger.

Not to mention he gas zero clock management skills and would rather run out of bounds instead of trying to make something happen in crucial moments. The guy is really really bad actually. I'm not sure why everyone can't see it.

I'll tell you one thing....if Nico couldn't do any better against Austin Peay than Milton did then that means he's a bust as a QB and player in general. I really don't believe that though. I think he would be an instant upgrade just like Dobbs was to Worely when he came in against Bama. Milton is very bad at managing this offense. His downfield accuracy isn't even the main issue with his play as bad as that can be.

 

[VolDaddy61]

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So Willie is teaching the DB’s not to turn around or cover? So all the players he had drafted, he taught them correctly, makes sense.

Talented Players get drafted.

 

[Zues1]

How many times over the years have we heard this

 

[Zues1]

Need a new DC!! Banks sucks too!

Maybe, but if we had dbs that could defend and hit someone Banks would look like a hero.

 

[Crunch]

And you know this how? You don’t. Erik Ainge was a thousand times the QB as a freshman that Milton is now - he could read defenses and go through progressions, and he was accurate. And he was only a four-star. He was also every bit as skinny as Nico is now.

Yep....Ainge, Bray and Dobbs were all three studs as scrawny looking little true freshmen in an era when defenses actually really hut the QBs as well.

Why is volnation so freaking small minded and stubborn? Let Nico have a chance to prove himself before we get into the mest of a schedule. Like i said we know for a fact that we are a terrible team with Milton at QB.

SC will blow us out worse than they did last year. AP is a really really bad team and we made them look good. Florida sucks ass as well. Aggies will dog walk us with Milton as well.

We need a spark and we need one fast. If Nico is a baller, that would make a huge difference in the confidence of the eest of our guys as well. They literally look defeared and lethargic under Milton before the first snap of the game even.

 

[Crunch]

I don’t get this silly argument to give up on this year and play for next year while we have a 2-1 record. What are you going to do, sit all the seniors out the rest of the year? Are you going to tell Danny White and administration you have given up already and playing for next year. (I don’t know, you might want to reread your contract.).
We still have a chance for a good bowl game. The coaching staff owe it to the players, University, and the fans to have as good of a season as possible.
The way to play for next year and beyond is to recruit, use the portal, AND to get fans to donate more to a NIL collective.

Stubbornly trotting Milton out is giving up imo. He sucks period. Play your best players. Always.

 

[Franklin_Vol09]

Milton isn’t the answer. Never was. Never will be. This is the perfect game to get Nico a lot of game experience and see what he can do. We aren’t gonna beat SC or A&M running the offense we’re currently running with Milton.

We thought that with Austin Peay.

 

[Crunch]

Yay! Another "Let's get rid of the starting QB" thread. Nico may come in and set the world on fire, but what uf he doesn't? What if he overthrows a receiver, or (gasp) throws an interception?! Who will you get on your knees, throw your hands to the heavens and beg for then. How many different ways will this be expressed in the next 30 hours or so.

Bro it's called actually TRYING.

If he isn't ready just send Milton back out the later in the game or the next game. No harm done. I have a very hard time believing he wouldn't be an instant upgrade though.

Hell Nick Saban put in true freshmen Tua in their national championship game and it paid off. Spurrier used to rotate all the time.

Absolutely no one knows how well or bad Nico would look.

We do know how bad Milton looks though and it's really really bad actually. We can't even call real passing plays most of the game.

I have to honestly question the intelligence of some of youn

Freshman QBs kill it all the time nowadays. This isn't the 1950s anymore ffs.

We have had three true freshman come in and absolutely ball out in our recent history even. It's definitely not impossible for Nico to start off very good.

 

[Crunch]

Milton won't run out of the pocket because he's afraid to get hit, so he stays in the pocket and takes bigger hits. Milton lies down in front of small DBs. Maybe Nico has a pair. Milton can get an overall good grade, while having 2 or 3 plays that are just unacceptable.

I've noticed this too. Milton plays scared now period. And he is definitely scared of getting hit or injured. Looks like Tarzan plays like jane.

Sorry to say this, but he doesn't have 1/10th the heart that Hooker or Dobbs had. Both those guys were warriors at the QB position.

 

[Crunch]

The best cure is get folks healthy and not get suspended.

A couple of these guys were inherited. It you can't get immediate plug in play linemen and there are very few Trey Smith's out there then it takes 2 or 3 years in the strength and conditioning program.

We can not win in tge SEC with a bad QB. Period.

Some of you need to face reality.

Playing Milton now makes zero logical sense for this season and the future unless ofcourse Nico is a massive bust like Harrison Bailey. We won't know until we try.

 

[rocketskates]

He’s not wrong, nothing beats a qb’s confidence more than getting clobbered with poor o line play.

RE: Harrison Bailey

 

[Crunch]

A great running game by the RUNNING BACKS!!!!!

Heupel 's offensse is infinitely better with a QB that can take off and get first downs when lanes are open.

It also greatly opens up the lanes for our RBs which in turns changes the way the defense lines up and opens up pur passing game.

Especially when we are getting the snap of quickly and can catch the D before they set up correctly. You clearly know nothing about this offensive scheme.

A true dual threat who can also go over the top makes Heupel's offense damn near unstoppable.

 

[Crunch]

Leave Joe alone...I'm gonna start posting that everytime someone posts he is the problem....He's not.

Just stop it ffs.

Joe is nothing close to a real SEC QB. All of the rest of our rivals already know this as well. Anyone with eyes knows who doesn't have a dog in the fight so to speak.

He doesn't have it between the ears and the team clearly has zero confidence in him behind this line.

His interception against Florida was a dagger that immediately gave them a two score lead.

He doesn't get the offense lined up quickly enough and always looks extremely lost and confused and second guesses himself.

He also ignores both wide open running lanes and wide open WRs because he is too tentative in general constantly secon guessing his decision.

He's literally JG part two with a cannon for an arm..If you can't see than then you don't know anything about football and you probably even said that Stetson Bennett fir UGA sucied and that Georgia win in spite of him.

I remember most of our delusional fanbase claiming that JG was better than Joe freakin Burrow heading into the 2019 season. So excuse me if i doubt everyone 's eye for QB talent here.

 

[cherokeeeVOL]

The best cure is getting Mays back healthy.

 

[KTrain]

Is a mobile shifty QB who's not afraid to take off and try to win games by zny means possible.

Milton might as well be Peyton back there. He can fly when he wants to but he always ignores wide open lanes. It would really help open up our offense and running game.

I say try Nico this game. Before you tell me oh he's skinny... he's a freshman. Please just stop. Tyler Bray was scrawny as a true freshman and lit it up behind a poor line.

Dobbs came in against a monster of a Bama defense and instantly balled out.

You could clearly see both of their "it" factors as soon as a few plays happened. I've yet to ever see this in Milton.

And that performance against AP was one of the worst I've ever seen out of a starting QB for Tennessee. It sas easily up there with some of JG's eggs.

We have nothing to lose guys. Our offense desperately needs a spark.

Low Post count and a repetitive post that's really not addressing the O Line that was missing 2 players last weekend. Troll alert another opposing team Fan trying to spread discourse among Fans. Keep flaming.

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

Have you watched us play in our last 3 road games regardless of QB? @UGA, @SCar, @UF? We've been absolutely awful from the start, doesn't mean the 2022 Tennessee team was horrible and also doesn't mean the 2023 team is either. Yes, SCAR is good enough team to beat us but I will be pretty surprised if they do. How we played last Saturday in the Swamp has nothing to do with how we are going to play at home vs a mediocre SCAR team and the "no prayer" dramatic BS stuff from everyone on this board is embarrassing.

We didn’t play on the road in an hostile environment against Austin Peay if my memory serves me right. Looked pretty lousy in that one.

We can absolutely beat SC, but we are going to have to be a much better team than we have the last two games. Starts with playing a solid game against UTSA.

 

[Crunch]

We definitely heard it when Worely was our starter and Butch told us that Worley was the better option because Dobbs was only a freshman.

We also heard it when Milton was the starter in 2021 over Hooker. Some of you are just really stubborn and risk adverse.

We don't know until we try. WTF do we possibly have to lose trying???

We are AT LEAST a 5 loss team with Milton. That's a fact vased on what we've seen so far and that number is being generous.

How many times over the years have we heard this

 

[HalfullVol]

49.5 QBR isn’t a problem? What world are you living in? That’s good for 89th in the country right.

ouch

damn joe

 

[Crunch]

A freshmen qb is the answer? How many freshmen are good. We get him hurt and we are screwed.

I bet we air raid. I bet we launch 6 to 10 deep balls.

True freshmalen former vol QBs would like Eric Ainge, Tyler Bray and Josh Dobbs would be massive upgrades over Milton. Huge upgrades.

Are you really going to sit there and matter of factly say that pur biggest QB recruit since Peyton couldn't possibly be an upgrade?

You people freakin kill me. This is literally the night mares that was Justin Worely and JG all over again.

 

[CAVPUT]

Let me ask you one simple question.

Would you rather have a freshman version Josh Dobbs in this offense or Joe Milton?

Who's to say Nico couldn't be a breakout freshman sensation like Dobbs or Bray or even Trevor Lawrence?

It's just utterly retarded to say hur durrr....we can't try Nico because he's a freshman and freshman get hurt easily. Freshmen make too many mistakes.

It's like STFU......you really don't know until you try. For the love of god. You same people are part of the reason we were stuck with JG at QB for what seemed like a freaking decade.

For linemen, but I'm glad to have helped you vent a bit.

 

[GordonC]

We didn’t play on the road in an hostile environment against Austin Peay if my memory serves me right. Looked pretty lousy in that one.

We can absolutely beat SC, but we are going to have to be a much better team than we have the last two games. Starts with playing a solid game against UTSA.

@PEPPERJAX was at the AP game, so there was some hostility for somebody

 

[lukeneyland]

Y’all that live within a reasonable distance and that can afford it are silly not to go. The fans that turn up every week no matter what are the people that make UT special

 

[Crunch]

Milton plats scared period.

He's scared to take wide open lanes of green grass infront if him. Scared to get hit.

Runs out of bounds instead of taking a hit to get a first down.

Panic throws a punt of a pass while getting sacked that gives our biggest rival besides Bama and instant opportunity to take an early two score lead after proclaiming on social media "I don't lose in Florida."

This kind of fear and lack of killer instinct at the QB position is literally cancerous to a football team.

The oline has been terrible but that doesn't change the fact that our leader who's supposed to represent our identity on offense is soft as baby **** and appears completely non chalant acting whenever they pan the camera over to him. Milton is clearly nothing close to what a real winner at QB looks like.

I've never seen Milton look tough nor determined to win in anything he's ever done while playing for us. Never seen him get into anyone's face as well.

Same went for JG and i always used to get bashed on here when people told me that JG is tough because he takes so many hits behind a bad line.

No ..real toughness is showing an inner fire that you will do ANYTHING to win.... it's a mindset thing.

That's why Tom Brady for example is the best QB of all time besides Peyton.

Some guys are just DETERMINED to win and make everyone else around them better.

I see absolutely zero of that "it" factor in Milton and the truth is he would suck even behind a good oline because he's a terrible effin excuse for a P5 QB in general and is slow as molasses in everything that he does.