Please Holly...Resign Or Retire

#30
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TheSpartan said:
We simply have to get that recruiting class in before firing her. Give her one more year no matter what.
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The other option is to hire a coach among the top ten, or a winning WNBA coach, and give them a chance to talk to the recruits. Players just want to play for a coach committed to winning and has a record to support that view. If it were me, the incoming coach, I would retain the recruiting coordinator because they have a relationship with the recruits and they know the families.
 
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teacherdean said:
The other option is to hire a coach among the top ten, or a winning WNBA coach, and give them a chance to talk to the recruits. Players just want to play for a coach committed to winning and has a record to support that view. If it were me, the incoming coach, I would retain the recruiting coordinator because they have a relationship with the recruits and they know the families.
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I agree with you wholeheartedly! I can see that happening, too.

Here's hoping that it does happen!

GOLADYVOLS!:eek:k:
 
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There are not a lot of coaches at well established programs that are 'going to jump' anywhere, even TN. And you probably don't want those coaches because they are cutting out on the good players they recruited and the school that is paying them very well to chase personal fortune and personal fame.
There are however a lot of good coaches doing good jobs at lesser schools, that would love to jump up in class to a program where they would have a real chance to recruit the top talent in the country and mold them into a really good team. And there are a number of good assistants at the well established programs that would also jump at the chance to move into the HC job at TN - those folks are a bit more of a gamble just because you don't know how they will function in the top job, but if you get the right one it can be golden.

And people who blame the players really don't understand what happens in a program. You can have the best players in the world but if you don't give them direction in practice and hold them accountable in practice, and force them to be team players, you end up with a really bad product on the floor. You get what you see in the McDonald's game most years - nobody playing defense and everyone trying to jack up spectacular shots on offense. Some days they may make a lot of shots and the opponent may miss a lot of bunnies, and the other days they miss a lot of shots and the opponent makes all their bunnies. Or you get what the US Men's Olympic team looked like before coach K took over and started selecting the team players and not just the stars.
 
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hokievol12 said:
Either would go a long way toward eliminating the complacency, cluelessness, absolute ineptness of this once proud program! The train wreck that we watch is demoralizing to the fanbase.
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:thud:For the past two years, the Lady Vols have consistently had too many games with 15 to 20 turnovers and instances of the ball being stolen by opponents. There has been absolutely no improvements by the players and obviously no importance to the coaching staff...its time for a coaching change. Against Mississippi State there were 19 turnovers which produced 12 points alone. DeShields is one of the worst on turnovers with usually 5 or more per game...bench her until she improves! Mississippi State had 10 steals. We could do the same if coached.
 
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:eek:lol:I totally agree with what you said. Until Warlick is fired the situation will worsen. We consistently have 15 to 20 turnovers per game. Tonight there were 5 in the first quarter alone. The coaching staff does not have a clue either.

teacherdean said:
Holly is not smart enough to quit or retire, she will need to be fired. This program lacks the environment that is needed to produce a top 15 team. Waiting for next year is only going to produce similar results, only with 9 superstars. We need to face facts, you can have a team full of 5 stars but you have to know how to coach up their abilities and develop those skills. I thought that Holly should be given a chance to continue to coach the incoming recruits, however, does she deserve that opportunity? That is starting to appear questionable at best. She is not the only D1 coach with a limited roster, which was really created due to her lack of recruiting for 2016-2017. To be factual it is not the limited roster that is beating us, it is bad defense, bad offense, turnovers, not playing with the necessary mental skills and inept coaching. We need an environment change which I believe Holly is incapable of producing.
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DLuckySeven said:
The Coach that beat her tonight Matt Insell should be the number 1 candidate to replace Holly
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Jeff Walz, Matthew Mitchell, so many others in the convo imo. Walz would be a top target if up to me, which it's t and I am not too informed about women's bball.
 
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Hoya Saxa said:
If there were a coaching change, wouldn't next year's class be released from their LOIs?
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I'm thinking no, but if anybody out there knows better, please correct.

This coach does a decent job of using our incredible tradition to recruit, but she just flat out can't coach. It is painful to watch.

I'd pay Dawn Staley 2 mil per year or more to come here if it were my call.
 
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DAMN HOLLY!
Just another step forward please...AND THEN.....

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Follow the program down too...since you gave it your own push off of the edge.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Jeff Walz, Matthew Mitchell, so many others in the convo imo. Walz would be a top target if up to me, which it's t and I am not too informed about women's bball.
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No and H*ll NO!
Walz is another Warlick. He can't coach talent. That's one team now that's struggling and shouldn't be.

Mitchell don't know what an offense look like if it bit him in the butt. Epps is carrying that team and before her it was Jenny from the Bronx, his team teams had to rely on the "40 minutes of dread" to produce any kind of points because their offense was inept. Now their defense is mediocre and their offense is still inept. Not mention the mass exodus of players and coaches that's plagued them.

Same for Mcguff leave his over recruiting behind at OSU. He's shady too don't need the headache of parents on the coaching staff that's not how we operate. His teams underperform too.
 
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To UCMiami....enjoy your comments. Who'd you like to see on the sideline as coach? Gail G.? Becky H.? Someone else?
 
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FrozenLVFan said:
The incoming recruits signed their LOI's with the understanding that they would be playing for CHW. Are we going to lose any of them if a new coach were hired before their arrival?
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If the coach is going to produce these results why would you want to keep that coach? Doing the same thing over & over & expecting different results? She should have been canned last year. Reminds me of one coach you're all familiar with that said "I'll have to see the tape before I can make a comment" (former CPF). Duh!
 
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armchair said:
Staley can recruit but she's a mediocre coach. No to her, no to Mitchell.
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I know I said in an earlier post I'd pay Staley 2 mil per year, and I stick by that. Having been said, if I had my way, I'd do everything I could to go out and get Mickey DeMoss. I'd give her a chance over all the others, if she would accept. I still think she was a very strong influence on Pat's success. JMO.
 
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OrangeInKy said:
Jeff Walz, Matthew Mitchell, so many others in the convo imo. Walz would be a top target if up to me, which it's t and I am not too informed about women's bball.
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Listen, it cannot be repeated enough but there is no reasonable amount of money to get Jeff Walz at Tennessee. Same goes for Brenda Friese. Both have kicked up too much dirt with Pat's Possee in town. Jeff Walz will coach at UTC before he ever ends up at UT.

Matthew Mitchell just had half the team quit last year--you don't want him.

Getting back to Pat's Possee. They know too much--they know where the bodies are buried. Holly Warlick is never getting fired. Never. Ever. Ever. It will have to be an intervention by Pat's Possee to tell her its time and her resign voluntarily.

Edit: Also if your favorite candidate has a p*nis then he will also not get a sniff at this job when and if Holly ever resigned...carry on
 
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DLuckySeven said:
The Coach that beat her tonight Matt Insell should be the number 1 candidate to replace Holly
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I would sooner fly to Storrs to cheer on Connecticut during a home game and then go to their post-game autograph session and ask Geno to sign my newly-purchased UConn jersey than to ever see him in charge of the Lady Vols.
 
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CincyLadyVol said:
To UCMiami....enjoy your comments. Who'd you like to see on the sideline as coach? Gail G.? Becky H.? Someone else?
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I think Becky wants to be a trail blazer on the men's side so she is not likely leaving soon. GG is a decent coach, but after the TX debacle, I am not sure she is a wise move into a culturally foreign area of the country which I think is what happened in TX and could happen in TN.

I think you look at some of the mid-major coaches that are doing well. They are having good success with second rate players because they know how to get them playing as a team on offense and defense. Banghart at Princeton is someone I think will get snapped up by a P5 soon, and there are a number of other mid-major teams Fabbri at Quinnipiac maybe? And there are a few assistants that are probably ready - Ivy at ND being one that everyone seems to mention. Ralph or Moseley at Uconn, but not sure they would jump to TN or that TN would welcome them.
I just think the idea of looking at Walz or any of the folks that have built programs at schools that are supporting them would leave to take over someone else program. Kim - not leaving Baylor, Brenda - not leaving MD. And the ones that aren't well established at P5s are mostly too new to their positions to jump or would be retreads with mediocre records. TN is not a magic bullet for a coach that will transform them - better to find the next Pat or Geno, with less experience but passion and a vision, and a student of the game.
Or even go down a division or two and try to find the next Scott Rueck like Oregon State did. I was really impressed with Steve Gomez and Lubbock Christian when they played Uconn in preseason last year - smart guy with an incredibly loyal fan following and good success on the court - D2 but took a trouncing by uconn and used it to win the D2 title at 35-0 in their first season of eligibility for the D2 NCAA.
 
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