Please Holly...Resign Or Retire

[alexvol]

I disagree. HW can head a successful program, but that program has to have the right mix of coaches and staff in her stable.

Right now she has players she admittedly can not read....,As a boss, if my employees can't do a particular something I find someone who wants to and can.

Somebody on that staff has to be able to pull the type of players that played against Stanford, into more than just one game.

Coach I both agree and disagree with your proposition.Agree ,that if she had the right mix that things could be different in a positive way .Disagree with Holly at the helm because of one simple fact ......who hired her Assistant Coaches ? That was rhetorical ....Holly hired them .So if the right mix is not on the staff whose problem is it ? That was rhetorical also ....Holly is responsible .And I would add ,that if she has not recognized her weaknesses as a head Coach by this point in time ( 5th year ) and added those Assistants who would cover her weaknesses she never will.

 

[Coach Jumper]

Coach I both agree and disagree with your proposition.Agree ,that if she had the right mix that things could be different in a positive way .Disagree with Holly at the helm because of one simple fact ......who hired her Assistant Coaches ? That was rhetorical ....Holly hired them .So if the right mix is not on the staff whose problem is it? That was rhetorical also ....Holly is responsible .And I would add ,that if she has not recognized her weaknesses as a head Coach by this point in time ( 5th year ) and added those Assistants who would cover her weaknesses she never will.

I have to believe I could positively influence this present team and staff.

To go in and make a difference with a new HC would be to ride the coattails of their success.
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No,
I would prefer this group now.
I would want to help this group reach it's lofty potential.

 

[armchair]

I disagree. HW can head a successful program, but that program has to have the right mix of coaches and staff in her stable.

Right now she has players she admittedly can not read....,As a boss, if my employees can't do a particular something I find someone who wants to and can.

Somebody on that staff has to be able to pull the type of players that played against Stanford, into more than just one game.

Everything starts with the head coach. Of course even a bad coach might succeed if surrounded by a perfect mix of players and asst. coaches--but that's not the real world. The buck stops with the coach. And the talent is her responsibility too. She's been a bit unlucky with injuries--but even so we've lost a LOT of games that should have been comfortable wins. I don't think she has a good feel for managing players and a team; in fact, I think she's bad at it. The only thing I'll say in Warlick's defense is that I think DD is a bit of a head case and not an easy player to manage. Her play, for two years, as been erratic at best and bad at worst. Again, a better leader and coach would probably be getting more out of her, but DD just hasn't been the player everybody thought she'd be. Really underachieving.

 

[Escape Goat]

Maybe I'm wrong but has a program fallen so fast?

Miami and Nebraska in football come to mind. And damn, I just realized I guess we have too. But really, no. It's a shame she was hired instead of searching nationally. I will refrain from saying what I really think. Hope the new AD gets this right. I don't even watch anymore because of holly. I'm extremely happy she pulled in the top class last year. The new coach will need it, and hopefully makes the job (along with the lady Vol history) enticing. ENOUGH OF THIS POPPYCOCK!!!

 

[Bah Humbug]

I disagree. HW can head a successful program, but that program has to have the right mix of coaches and staff in her stable.

Right now she has players she admittedly can not read....,As a boss, if my employees can't do a particular something I find someone who wants to and can.

Somebody on that staff has to be able to pull the type of players that played against Stanford, into more than just one game.

That somebody should be HW but she doesn't have the ability to coach....I disagree with you.

 

[LVJeff]

Listen, it cannot be repeated enough but there is no reasonable amount of money to get Jeff Walz at Tennessee. Same goes for Brenda Friese. Both have kicked up too much dirt with Pat's Possee in town. Jeff Walz will coach at UTC before he ever ends up at UT.

Matthew Mitchell just had half the team quit last year--you don't want him.

Getting back to Pat's Possee. They know too much--they know where the bodies are buried. Holly Warlick is never getting fired. Never. Ever. Ever. It will have to be an intervention by Pat's Possee to tell her its time and her resign voluntarily.

Edit: Also if your favorite candidate has a p*nis then he will also not get a sniff at this job when and if Holly ever resigned...carry on

Who is Pat's Posse? I'm not trying to be argumentative, I just don't understand who these people are. Why are they so protective of Holly that they're willing to see the program languish and suffer?

 

[teacherdean]

There are many that think to be a Lady Vol fan you have to be a Holly fan and that is simply not true. Some think that you hate Holly just because you believe the program is going in the wrong direction and that is not true. There are a lot of good people in the coaching world but lack the ability to be a good head coach. These "I love Holly" people seem to think that it is great that Holly is entrenched on the side lines forever, no matter what happens. The Lady Vol program is bigger then any coach or player, it was once the gold standard. The game is not about loving or hating Holly it is about leadership and how the game is played. The name Lady Vol means Women's Basketball. Pat created a legacy that has evolved into a major sport, both in the US and around the world. There should be every effort made to keep the Lady Vols a relevant player. Not just the name but how they are coached and how they play. It is a heavy mantle to wear, but no one said it would be easy. The program is leaking oil and the engine is not hitting on all eight. It is in serious need of repair. We can all throw up our hands and watch the once well oiled machine fall apart until all its gaskets are blown, or we can go about fixing the problems.

Just because you want things to improve does not mean you are not a fan or you hate Holly as a person. We are not a top ten program and we keep falling down the ladder. We lack leadership on the floor and on the bench. We cannot substain good play from game to game, as far as that matters, from quarter to quarter. Some seem to think, just throw more 5 star players at the situation and things will get better, well we have had more five stars than MSU and Mississippi but they seem to get better while we grow worse. Some want to blame individual players, and at times they do play like rock heads, but these are young women that need to be coached and guided. They are going to do dumb things, but who is responsible for correcting bad play and inconsistencies, it is the head coach. Being a fan is much more than yelling rah rah, as the wheels come off.

 

[alexvol]

There are many that think to be a Lady Vol fan you have to be a Holly fan and that is simply not true. Some think that you hate Holly just because you believe the program is going in the wrong direction and that is not true. There are a lot of good people in the coaching world but lack the ability to be a good head coach. These "I love Holly" people seem to think that it is great that Holly is entrenched on the side lines forever, no matter what happens. The Lady Vol program is bigger then any coach or player, it was once the gold standard. The game is not about loving or hating Holly it is about leadership and how the game is played. The name Lady Vol means Women's Basketball. Pat created a legacy that has evolved into a major sport, both in the US and around the world. There should be every effort made to keep the Lady Vols a relevant player. Not just the name but how they are coached and how they play. It is a heavy mantle to wear, but no one said it would be easy. The program is leaking oil and the engine is not hitting on all eight. It is in serious need of repair. We can all throw up our hands and watch the once well oiled machine fall apart until all its gaskets are blown, or we can go about fixing the problems.

Just because you want things to improve does not mean you are not a fan or you hate Holly as a person. We are not a top ten program and we keep falling down the ladder. We lack leadership on the floor and on the bench. We cannot substain good play from game to game, as far as that matters, from quarter to quarter. Some seem to think, just throw more 5 star players at the situation and things will get better, well we have had more five stars than MSU and Mississippi but they seem to get better while we grow worse. Some want to blame individual players, and at times they do play like rock heads, but these are young women that need to be coached and guided. They are going to do dumb things, but who is responsible for correcting bad play and inconsistencies, it is the head coach. Being a fan is much more than yelling rah rah, as the wheels come off.

Post of the year Teacherdean.......you must be a teacher and a dean to have penned such an articulate description of the situation we find ourselves in as Lady Vol fans.Thanks !!!

 

[OJ]

The administration doesn't care.

 

[Nute Gunray]

There are many that think to be a Lady Vol fan you have to be a Holly fan and that is simply not true. Some think that you hate Holly just because you believe the program is going in the wrong direction and that is not true. There are a lot of good people in the coaching world but lack the ability to be a good head coach. These "I love Holly" people seem to think that it is great that Holly is entrenched on the side lines forever, no matter what happens. The Lady Vol program is bigger then any coach or player, it was once the gold standard. The game is not about loving or hating Holly it is about leadership and how the game is played. The name Lady Vol means Women's Basketball. Pat created a legacy that has evolved into a major sport, both in the US and around the world. There should be every effort made to keep the Lady Vols a relevant player. Not just the name but how they are coached and how they play. It is a heavy mantle to wear, but no one said it would be easy. The program is leaking oil and the engine is not hitting on all eight. It is in serious need of repair. We can all throw up our hands and watch the once well oiled machine fall apart until all its gaskets are blown, or we can go about fixing the problems.

Just because you want things to improve does not mean you are not a fan or you hate Holly as a person. We are not a top ten program and we keep falling down the ladder. We lack leadership on the floor and on the bench. We cannot substain good play from game to game, as far as that matters, from quarter to quarter. Some seem to think, just throw more 5 star players at the situation and things will get better, well we have had more five stars than MSU and Mississippi but they seem to get better while we grow worse. Some want to blame individual players, and at times they do play like rock heads, but these are young women that need to be coached and guided. They are going to do dumb things, but who is responsible for correcting bad play and inconsistencies, it is the head coach. Being a fan is much more than yelling rah rah, as the wheels come off.

Teacherdean, your comments are from the heart and gut. Tough, but absolutely honest and true! I wish Holly could read your comments.

 

[OldMikey]

She is good at least through the arrival of next season. If she makes another Elite 8 all the angst goes away. She is positioned to be right where they were last season, maybe even a game ahead and could hit 20 wins in the SEC tournament. The LV mystique died when pat died. It is still a program that could attract a rising coach. said Matt Insell a few weeks ago. He needs to escape a program about to go on probation for waht happened before he arrived. He will go somewhere soon. I think the Florida coach and the UK coach are in trouble, though UK might get the other gift NCAA invite as they will host a Regional and the NCAA usually rewards that.
Geno has emerged as the all-timer of this era.

 

[sccshortstop]

She is good at least through the arrival of next season. If she makes another Elite 8 all the angst goes away. She is positioned to be right where they were last season, maybe even a game ahead and could hit 20 wins in the SEC tournament. The LV mystique died when pat died. It is still a program that could attract a rising coach. said Matt Insell a few weeks ago. He needs to escape a program about to go on probation for waht happened before he arrived. He will go somewhere soon. I think the Florida coach and the UK coach are in trouble, though UK might get the other gift NCAA invite as they will host a Regional and the NCAA usually rewards that.
Geno has emerged as the all-timer of this era.

My thinking is she is positioned to lose 14 or more and maybe win none in the SEC tourney. If we make the NCAA tourney and that is a big IF she skates for at least 2 more years and according to most she is in no trouble anyway.

 

[alexvol]

She is good at least through the arrival of next season. If she makes another Elite 8 all the angst goes away. She is positioned to be right where they were last season, maybe even a game ahead and could hit 20 wins in the SEC tournament. The LV mystique died when pat died. It is still a program that could attract a rising coach. said Matt Insell a few weeks ago. He needs to escape a program about to go on probation for waht happened before he arrived. He will go somewhere soon. I think the Florida coach and the UK coach are in trouble, though UK might get the other gift NCAA invite as they will host a Regional and the NCAA usually rewards that.
Geno has emerged as the all-timer of this era.

This post says it all .Settle for maybe a berth in the Tourney and hope that they reach the Elite 8.This program was not built on the hope to reach the elite 8.

 

[Amb3096]

This post says it all .Settle for maybe a berth in the Tourney and hope that they reach the Elite 8.This program was not built on the hope to reach the elite 8.

The games against Auburn, Vandy, TAMU, LSU, Alabama and Georgia become unbelievably important for Tennessee. We know they will lose to SC and MSU. If they lose more than three of the games from that list above (and I think that there's a real possibility that they could to any or all of those teams), then they probably won't make the NCAAT.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but...qualifying for the field of 64 is far from a sure thing for this team.

 

[volman128]

Can't do a &$%^ thing with those gators!

Peck only won at Purdue because Nell Fortner had stacked the cupboard with talent before she left.

 

[Linda Lee]

Teacherdean, your comments are from the heart and gut. Tough, but absolutely honest and true! I wish Holly could read your comments.

The best post of the year by far! We all want this team to succeed but nothing will change until Holly and that staff of hers is gone!

Thank you for the post.