Police shooting black man in the back ... again (Kenosha, WI)

[Electric Orange]

No they didn't. They had a flimsy warrant but not for him. The city has banned this type of warrant and there are constitutional objections in play. She was innocent. No drugs. BF thought they were intruders.

Face the facts, trash.

Face the fact that cops shoot back, friend.

 

[volbeast33]

No they didn't. They had a flimsy warrant but not for him. The city has banned this type of warrant and there are constitutional objections in play. She was innocent. They suspected he was involved with drug dealers. No drugs found. BF thought they were intruders.

Face the facts, trash.

I agree with changing the laws which is where this needs to start..... the cops were doing their jobs

 

[RockyTop85]

I respect your opinion on this.

I would respond that any view of the system that posits that it favors the victim of crime (prosecution) is delegitimized when the person guilty of the crime goes free, possibly to commit more offenses.

I'm pretty sure that there are a lot of victims that would take issue with your description of what they have to go through as "inconveniences." A lot of their "sentences" imposed on them by the guilty party last a lifetime.

Like I said, perspectives are influenced by where you stand and where your sympathies lie.

No doubt there a balance among several competing interest, but IMO, the trend of trying to perform that balance from the victim’s* perspective is a very large part of the problem.

The idea of a criminal legal system isn’t to make the victim whole or fill some void in them. There are other processes for attempting to approximate that.

The purpose is to serve the communal interests of deterring crime, reforming criminals, protecting the public, maintaining credibility etc. So when you correctly frame the structure of the system from that perspective, both sides have an interest in “favoring“ the defendant to maintain the credibility and integrity of the government. (See e.g. CCP).

The reason is that the victim cannot be made whole. The victim who seeks to fill the void is insatiable. This is why the system should be viewed as a community function, not a service to victims.

Unfortunately, that type of dispassionate logic doesn’t win elections, and we’ve had enough generations of politicians running on the passions aroused by the system’s inability to quench the pangs of victimhood that I think society has legitimately gotten to the point where I’m wrong and you’re right, at least in terms of the values in which our system is now rooted.

* - FWIW, I agree with your point about perspectives and it’s definitely still valid even though I’m taking issue with what I think is more of a causal detail than a central pillar of what you’re saying.

 

[Electric Orange]

 

[n_huffhines]

Face the fact that cops shoot back, friend.

What do you think the point is here? The cops are at fault for putting themselves in the situation. I figure a 2a defender would support people protecting themselves against unidentified intruders that have no business being there. I guess not when they are black?

 

[Carl Pickens]

What do you think the point is here? The cops are at fault for putting themselves in the situation. I figure a 2a defender would support people protecting themselves against unidentified intruders that have no business being there. I guess not when they are black?[/QUOTE]
Dude... make your argument but don’t get stupid while doing so

 

[k-town_king]

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@k-town_king
You keep saying that the people will not do shat...watch and learn!

he didn't do shat. Not anything manly or tough. He was a punk that went to start something thinking he would be okay because he was trying to intimidate people with a gun.

He got his butt kicked then shot like a punk. This is a true thug.

 

[Electric Orange]

What do you think the point is here? The cops are at fault for putting themselves in the situation. I figure a 2a defender would support people protecting themselves against unidentified intruders that have no business being there. I guess not when they are black?

You're so fast to play the race card even when according to your narrative you don't need to.

 

[ButchPlz]

he didn't do shat. Not anything manly or tough. He was a punk that went to start something thinking he would be okay because he was trying to intimidate people with a gun.

He got his butt kicked then shot like a punk. This is a true thug.

I really can't stand racial supremacists.

And here we have a black supremacist. Awful.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I have mine dressed up like Donald trump if you want to see

Did you spray it orange?

 

[k-town_king]

I really can't stand racial supremacists.

And here we have a black supremacist. Awful.

He was a thug looking for trouble. Started a fight. Got whooped. Then shot some people. A real hero to the right. Sad

 

[LouderVol]

he didn't do shat. Not anything manly or tough. He was a punk that went to start something thinking he would be okay because he was trying to intimidate people with a gun.

He got his butt kicked then shot like a punk. This is a true thug.

Oh yeah that mob after him was full of civil servants and beneficiaries to society just wanting to hug him.

And defending yourself makes you a punk/thug?

 

[ButchPlz]

He was a thug looking for trouble. Started a fight. Got whooped. Then shot some people. A real hero to the right. Sad

You're not only blind, but a white-hating racist. And to top it off we've already established that you hate blacks, too. There's no possibility for discussion any time you post- you're either too bigoted or too stupid or both to communicate with.

The sad thing is this stupidity expands well beyond the 'political' garbage you spew.

 

[utvolpj]

he didn't do shat. Not anything manly or tough. He was a punk that went to start something thinking he would be okay because he was trying to intimidate people with a gun.

He got his butt kicked then shot like a punk. This is a true thug.

The guy he shot also had a gun

 

[0nelilreb]

The guy he shot also had a gun

I doubt he’s looked at any of the videos , you don’t need to when pushing an agenda .

 

[Y9 Vol]

he didn't do shat. Not anything manly or tough. He was a punk that went to start something thinking he would be okay because he was trying to intimidate people with a gun.

He got his butt kicked then shot like a punk. This is a true thug.

And just like that, k-Town feelz better about himself.

 

[evillawyer]

he didn't do shat. Not anything manly or tough. He was a punk that went to start something thinking he would be okay because he was trying to intimidate people with a gun.

He got his butt kicked then shot like a punk. This is a true thug.

It's almost like guns make us less safe.

 

[allvol123]

I really can't stand racial supremacists.

And here we have a black supremacist. Awful.

Without a doubt.

 

[Electric Orange]

 

[golfballs]

And this is the last thing he tweeted

 

[allvol123]

I said yesterday the governor failed to uphold the duties of his office. Still failing.

 

[volbeast33]

Did you spray it orange?

I can take requests lol

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

It's almost like guns make us less safe.

They certainly do the people who like to violently attack others.

 

[utvolpj]

It's almost like guns make us less safe.

Except this example absolutely proves they don't. Criminals are though

How else could a person protect their business from a lawless mob hellbent on destroying it? How does one protect their family when greatly outnumbered by these same groups?

 

[Electric Orange]

And this is the last thing he tweeted

That aged poorly.