Police shooting black man in the back ... again (Kenosha, WI)

[lacrossepro70]

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[jp1]

You can't show up in another state with a gun to play cop. Sorry

Also here are facts like I always have


If someone starts shooting you can stop them and should.

You can't take a gun to another state to randomly patrol and play cop.




Ok with him how?

Using the n word ? No

Trying to stop a murderer? Cool

So would you have been okay with him shooting the 17 yr old, or would that have made him the murderer?

 

[utvolpj]

Uh. He had a hold of his shirt. All he had to do was pull him to the ground. Or tazer. Or pepper spray. Guns shouldn't have been drawn in the first place. He was the one who called them- the cops were frightened because he is a black man. That's racist!

Or the guy could have just stopped and cleared up the issue with the police. I know if they had their guns on me I'm not going to walk away and go dig around in my car. I also don't think it's racist to be a little fearful of a violent criminal

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

So we see how easily people are led astray by a complicit media. It’s really sad.

 

[RockyTop85]

One thing is for sure. I’ll bet Trump appreciates this **** show of the local government in the swing state of Wisconsin

This is the truth.

Is there anything clearly showing the supposed justification for shooting the guy other than him literally asking for it?

My take as a potential juror (not legal opinions) based on TN definitions from the various possibilities I’ve seen here:
I’m skipping felony murder because as a juror I won’t convict on that. That could arguably get him, though.

First degree murder: I probably need to see more of what led up to the first shooting. I haven’t watched all the videos. I’ve seen the deceased being belligerent. Not enough for me to say he deserved it but enough for me to pass on 1st, assuming there is some testimony that he later acted in a way that posed a legit threat to the defendant.

Second degree murder: Not if he indeed tried to turn himself in. This probably isn’t legally relevant to 2nd but to me it shows a lesser culpability. It’s always bad when the defendant runs or hides.

Vol. Manslaughter: Same issue as 1st. I have no idea what his state of mind was.

Reckless Homicide: yeah, probably. Honestly I should probably know the ins and outs of this charge better but here is where arming yourself and driving across state lines to a known conflict is a problem for me. The law may require a little more proximity between the conduct and the result but I think this is where I settle assuming I don’t see anything closer in time to the shooting that says this was justified or unjustified.

The subsequent shootings are weird. To me, they hinge on the first. Basically, how justified were his pursuers? You don’t get to shoot your way out of an unlawful killing, IMO. I think that’s actually a freestanding crime in TN and is likely grounds for felony murder. If he’s guilty of Reckless on the first, I’d have to really think about whether I would come off 2nd on the later shooting. If I see that the first shooting was justified then the second/third shooting were as well, in my non-legal opinion.

 

[utvolpj]

So, I need to comply and become a victim of crime?

You do you but a gun in my face will likely stop both my feet and my mouth. Maybe that's just me though

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Or the guy could have just stopped and cleared up the issue with the police. I know if they had their guns on me I'm not going to walk away and go dig around in my car. I also don't think it's racist to be a little fearful of a violent criminal

Did the police know that prior to shooting him in the back?

 

[C-south]

Uh. He had a hold of his shirt. All he had to do was pull him to the ground. Or tazer. Or pepper spray. Guns shouldn't have been drawn in the first place. He was the one who called them- the cops were frightened because he is a black man. That's racist!

And all he had to do was do what he was told.

 

[LouderVol]

And just think k town king is angry at someone who wanted/tried to stop this.

 

[utvolpj]

Did the police know that prior to shooting him in the back?

Idk but he sure didn't wait around to find out. I believe they knew he had a warrant

 

[lacrossepro70]

So we see how easily people are led astray by a complicit media. It’s really sad.

You know what's sad?

 

[k-town_king]

I find it interesting that you use words like "looking for trouble", "isn't a victim", etc in regards to the 17 year old, however you can't see any of this trouble when you look at the actions of Mr. Blake.

When you drive to another state with a gun to get involved in something that has nothing to do with you is the definition of looking for trouble.

Have fun in prison kid. I'm sure the Aryan Brotherhood already has a spot reserved for him.

So would you have been okay with him shooting the 17 yr old, or would that have made him the murderer?

If he had already shot some innocent people then hell yea stop him by any means necessary.

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

You know what's sad?

She looks and speaks like a crazy person.

 

[LouderVol]

So people can protect their home but not their livelihood?

Or their town/city/state/country in general?

I am sure this guy knee absolutely no one where the rioting was happening. Never shopped there. Walked by there. Nothing. Complete stranger.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Idk but he sure didn't wait around to find out. I believe they knew he had a warrant

I am not sure what they knew or when they knew it. It will be interesting to find out to say the least.

 

[lacrossepro70]

And all he had to do was do what he was told.

All the cops had to do was deescalate the situation. And then after they shot him, mistakenly, they should have rendered aid. But they failed so they should go to jail.

 

[LouderVol]

Guns have never solved a problem.

Idk people with guns have done a lot. That whole Hitler thing ended with someone using a gun.

British tyranny. Slavery. Who knows how many thousands of legitimate self defense uses.

 

[OrangeBlood4life]

Ok. First victim(one shot in head)- video posted earlier of him chasing the 17 year old and throwing a molotov, kept going in between cars, thats where he was shot. Then you see the 17 year old running..

Enter 2nd video of him running

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

All the cops had to do was deescalate the situation. And then after they shot him, mistakenly, they should have rendered aid. But they failed so they should go to jail.

 

[LouderVol]

His livelihood wasn't threatened until he started running down the middle of a protest carrying a gun. You've solidified your stature on the idiotic scale.

that wasnt a protest.

And what is wrong with running thru a protest? Armed or not?

 

[utvolpj]

All the cops had to do was deescalate the situation. And then after they shot him, mistakenly, they should have rendered aid. But they failed so they should go to jail.

He had already fought with them and been tazed. Pretty sure it was escalated beyond repair at that point

 

[lacrossepro70]

I didn't see any brawling. I see a dude crawling on the grounnd. Again. Pepper sprey or tazer would have sufficed juuuust fine.

 

[C-south]

All the cops had to do was deescalate the situation. And then after they shot him, mistakenly, they should have rendered aid. But they failed so they should go to jail.

They did

 

[37L1]

She looks and speaks like a crazy person.

She used to be married to Gavin Newsom. Now that's crazy.

 

[Septic]

She looks and speaks like a crazy person.

Isn't she dating Don Jr?

She sounds like she watched Hitler video's in preparation for her moment of glory.