Police shooting black man in the back ... again (Kenosha, WI)

[C-south]

I said the same thing when I saw the thugs at UTK rioting when Lane Kifffin took the job a USC. White people use any excuse to riot and burn mattresses, cars and businesses.

So burning a mattress or setting a dumpster on fire is equivalent to stealing everything you can and setting entire cities and businesses on fire?

 

[37L1]

If you had read up on it you would have known their was a fight prior to the video starting and that he had been tazed. The fact you are so wrong on many parts shows you have not done any research

Emotions, man, the video is emotional.

Facts Don't Matter.

 

[allvol123]

I have never seen him once question a shoot. He always sides with police or the white guys on a mission to kill the black guy. It is his MO and I am just calling a spade a spade. No reason to be cordial to him anymore. He is a despicable excuse for a human being.

You're the sorry excuse for a human.

 

[lacrossepro70]

Yep, all those whites in Chicago

Comparing kids at UT burning their own crap in the boring downtime before class starts and a bunch of animals destroying cities. Classic.

Dehumanizing political enemies is a common tactic of fascists and people committing genocide. Waiting for people to start calling protestors roaches.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

yes did you not read the 911 call dispatched out?

All I have seen is something like this...

Officers were called to respond to a domestic disturbance, police said, but it’s unclear who called 911 or what happened before the video recording begins. In a police call, a dispatcher says Blake “isn’t supposed to be there” and that he took the complainant’s keys and refused to leave. The dispatcher later explains she doesn’t have more details because the caller was “uncooperative.”

 

[tntar heel]

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Paramedic on his hat. The irony.

 

[Rickyvol77]

When you drive to another state with a gun to get involved in something that has nothing to do with you is the definition of looking for trouble.
So anytime a Black Panther or or Antifa or BLM shows up and legally carries, they are "looking for trouble"? Did the Antifa types rioting while carrying also from other states "look for trouble too?" Kind of the exact same thing is it not?
Have fun in prison kid. I'm sure the Aryan Brotherhood already has a spot reserved for him.
He's either going to get off, or get a reduced nothing burger for taking firearm across state lines.


If he had already shot some innocent people then hell yea stop him by any means necessary.

 

[NorthDallas40]

This is the truth.

Is there anything clearly showing the supposed justification for shooting the guy other than him literally asking for it?

My take as a potential juror (not legal opinions) based on TN definitions from the various possibilities I’ve seen here:
I’m skipping felony murder because as a juror I won’t convict on that. That could arguably get him, though.

First degree murder: I probably need to see more of what led up to the first shooting. I haven’t watched all the videos. I’ve seen the deceased being belligerent. Not enough for me to say he deserved it but enough for me to pass on 1st, assuming there is some testimony that he later acted in a way that posed a legit threat to the defendant.

Second degree murder: Not if he indeed tried to turn himself in. This probably isn’t legally relevant to 2nd but to me it shows a lesser culpability. It’s always bad when the defendant runs or hides.

Vol. Manslaughter: Same issue as 1st. I have no idea what his state of mind was.

Reckless Homicide: yeah, probably. Honestly I should probably know the ins and outs of this charge better but here is where arming yourself and driving across state lines to a known conflict is a problem for me. The law may require a little more proximity between the conduct and the result but I think this is where I settle assuming I don’t see anything closer in time to the shooting that says this was justified or unjustified.

The subsequent shootings are weird. To me, they hinge on the first. Basically, how justified were his pursuers? You don’t get to shoot your way out of an unlawful killing, IMO. I think that’s actually a freestanding crime in TN and is likely grounds for felony murder. If he’s guilty of Reckless on the first, I’d have to really think about whether I would come off 2nd on the later shooting. If I see that the first shooting was justified then the second/third shooting were as well, in my non-legal opinion.

I think it’s absolutely moronic for ANYBODY to pick up arms and cross state lines to defend others property unless they are family or close personal friend. And on the latter it would take a damn good and tight friend. I can think of maybe four people tops I’d be willing to do that for.

And as a potential juror I’d like to know why they thought taking up arms and traveling that distance was the right thing to do. Maybe it was a lawful act I don’t know cheesehead law here. Maybe the people would have been shot anyway by somebody else. But they definitely would not have been shot by the dude in custody and he’s the one that would be on trial. So why did he chose to put himself into that situation in the first place.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

You're the sorry excuse for a human.

And what do you base that upon?

 

[DEFENDTHISHOUSE]

Isn't she dating Don Jr?

She sounds like she watched Hitler video's in preparation for her moment of glory.

I didn’t even know who she was.

 

[LouderVol]

he isn't a victim, just a murderer. There are reports that he fired shots already that is why the video of the pursuit was made. They were chasing an active shooter

he drove from out of state. he is a domestic terrorist

He drove from at most 30 minutes away. They are right next to each other.

And again absolutely no blame to the ones rioting. Some of whom undoubtedly crossed the border too.

 

[Rickyvol77]

I didn't see any brawling. I see a dude crawling on the grounnd. Again. Pepper sprey or tazer would have sufficed juuuust fine.

They used a taser genius

 

[allvol123]

And what do you base that upon?

Your posts.

 

[ButchPlz]

Dehumanizing political enemies is a common tactic of fascists and people committing genocide. Waiting for people to start calling protestors roaches.

Oh, you mean like calling everyone racist, or bigoted, or forcing your way into their homes and properties and businesses and denying them their rights as people to have their own thoughts and property? That type of dehumanizing? The kind that the old nazi brownshirts made their bread and butter? The dehumanizing the old Bolsheviks did to non-supporters and especially kulaks? That kind?

 

[Septic]

Clearly she has a type.

Holy sht, look at the grill on this broad. Reminds me of one of those Mr. Potato head mouths that's comically too big for the head.

 

[Rickyvol77]

You really need to read up on this case before taking up such a staunch position

His clearly gets his facts from Facebook instead of actually reading them

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Your posts.

Which ones specifically?

 

[ButchPlz]

His clearly gets his facts from Facebook instead of actually reading them

Not Facebook- TikTok or twitter. He doesn't have the attention span for a Facebook post, as evidenced by the easily disprovable one-liners.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Holy sht, look at the grill on this broad. Reminds me of one of those Mr. Potato head mouths that's comically too big for the head.

Might be a nibbler. Could do some damage with those chompers too.

I need some empirical data.

 

[Rickyvol77]

You should pay closer attention to Ricky, cops can do no wrong in his worldview.

Cops absolutely can do wrong, they are humans like every other profession, but to point to obviously justified and legal actions as "racist" because a rapist got shot as he fought police is ridiculous, and really just shows an ignorance of case law and police procedures

 

[37L1]

Holy sht, look at the grill on this broad. Reminds me of one of those Mr. Potato head mouths that's comically too big for the head.

But the bumpers are nice.

 

[Rickyvol77]

why was he attacked? Why is a 17 year old from Illinois in Wisconsin? Armed during protests? We can only assume that he came to shoot someone. You can go ahead and make him a martyr.

So if a Black Panther from California shows up legally armed at a riot in Georgia, we can only assume he came to shoot someone?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Cops absolutely can do wrong, they are humans like every other profession, but to point to obviously justified and legal actions as "racist" because a rapist got shot as he fought police is ridiculous, and really just shows an ignorance of case law and police procedures

I think the main point of all these protests are that police procedures need to be reworked.

 

[ButchPlz]

So if a Black Panther from California shows up legally armed at a riot in Georgia, we can only assume he came to shoot someone?

I drove down to my family farm in middle Tennessee from my home out of state with a gun.

Surely I went to shoot someone.

 

[rjd970]

I wonder if the NRA steps in here and offers defense services for the shooter that was defending himself?