Politics in Europe

#76
#76
C/O said:
For those of us that don’t speak Russian, what do these colors mean?
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Aqua has taken over what used to be East Germany with a forest to the NE of the black hole of Berlin. Parts of Berlin slipped away to the southwest and we are unsure of their intentions. Poland appears to be safe, but France needs to keep an eye out.

Oh, to the west, we have issues. Due to climate change, everything has pretty much burned to a crisp and is nothing more than charcoal now, other than a few patches of forest scattered up and down the country with some still raging wildfires that have not burnt out as of yet.
 
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#77
#77
GroverCleveland said:
Aqua has taken over what used to be East Germany with a forest to the NE of the black hole of Berlin. Parts of Berlin slipped away to the southwest and we are unsure of their intentions. Poland appears to be safe, but France needs to keep an eye out.

Oh, to the west, we have issues. Due to climate change, everything has pretty much burned to a crisp and is nothing more than charcoal now, other than a few patches of forest scattered up and down the country with some still raging wildfires that have not burnt out as of yet.
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Yes but how does that affect important things like apfelwein production?
 
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#84
#84
LouderVol said:
how? how is one to know which color means which party? Heck how many people know what the parties are in Germany, yet alone what they stand for, especially based on common sense?
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I just googled it and can't find out anything about these colors. Ras needs to provide more details or something man. Damn you @Rasputin_Vol and your vagueness!
 
#86
#86
OK folks...I just saw a patient of mine who is a native German, thick accent and all. I asked her about this and her answer to whether a good bit of East Germany want to go back to being under the thumb of Russia and her answer was (in her accent) "no! That is BS. They do not want the Ruble back and they hate Putin."

Don't buy this propaganda from Ras. Consider it more internet BS
 
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#87
#87
Sea Ray said:
So a country wants to lose its self rule and be occupied by another country? I'm calling BS on that. In fact I was just in Berlin 3 months ago. They absolutely do not want to be under Russia's thumb again. This is propaganda
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I do Not doubt that there are some former East Germans who long for the “good old days”. The past has a way of seeming better than it actually was, especially when going through difficulties in the present.
But I am sure they are older and in the minority. The great mass of Germans in the East want no part of living under Putin’s blood stained thumb.
 
#88
#88
pretty sure its just more hyper partisan hyperbole. where you are either down for a borderless NWO globalism, or you are wanting to be dominated by Putin. absolutely no middle ground.

european countries have far more parties than we do, so there very well could be parties that espouse the two extremes. but I doubt they are the two main colors as Ras wants us to think.

at worst I would expect the eastern bunch to just not be down with joining the war in Ukraine or endlessly funding it, even if they are negative towards Russia and its acts. but as we see here, anything less than being willing to send US troops to defend Ukraine means you are a Putin nut slurper.
 
#89
#89
LouderVol said:
pretty sure its just more hyper partisan hyperbole. where you are either down for a borderless NWO globalism, or you are wanting to be dominated by Putin. absolutely no middle ground.

european countries have far more parties than we do, so there very well could be parties that espouse the two extremes. but I doubt they are the two main colors as Ras wants us to think.

at worst I would expect the eastern bunch to just not be down with joining the war in Ukraine or endlessly funding it, even if they are negative towards Russia and its acts. but as we see here, anything less than being willing to send US troops to defend Ukraine means you are a Putin nut slurper.
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The ultimate safeguard for Europe against a potentially resurgent Russia is NATO, and by NATO I mean a NATO in which the European members actually contribute meaningful resources. Europe has been able to keep their military spending and enlistments artificially low because of Uncle Sam basically footing the majority of the bill.
I think everyone knows that that cannot continue indefinitely and that was a point Trump was trying (clumsily) to make.
It has been 80 years since WWII ended. It is time for Europe to stand on its own two feet. With our alliance and support of course; but if they want to remain free and safe, they have to start making more sacrifices. The US cannot do it for them.
 
#90
#90
Sea Ray said:
OK folks...I just saw a patient of mine who is a native German, thick accent and all. I asked her about this and her answer to whether a good bit of East Germany want to go back to being under the thumb of Russia and her answer was (in her accent) "no! That is BS. They do not want the Ruble back and they hate Putin."

Don't buy this propaganda from Ras. Consider it more internet BS
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Are you questioning the credibility of Ras?
 
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#94
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Sea Ray said:
OK folks...I just saw a patient of mine who is a native German, thick accent and all. I asked her about this and her answer to whether a good bit of East Germany want to go back to being under the thumb of Russia and her answer was (in her accent) "no! That is BS. They do not want the Ruble back and they hate Putin."

Don't buy this propaganda from Ras. Consider it more internet BS
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I have every confidence that was Ras says is exactly how Putin feels on the situation.
 
#95
#95
Le Pen and crew are banging on the door now.


www.nbcnews.com

Far right 'at the gates of power' after historic France election result

The ruling centrists and the country’s left were scrambling to thwart the National Rally in the decisive second round and prevent France’s first far-right government since the Nazi occupation in World War II.
www.nbcnews.com www.nbcnews.com


www.politico.eu

Le Pen’s far right set for big win in first round of French election

Early projections show National Rally on course for victory in the vote for a new parliament as Emmanuel Macron’s election gamble backfires.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu
 
#96
#96
and just a reminder for everyone, what counts as "far right" in Europe means left of center in the US.

Pretty similar to the US, but there are only a few big items that separate the groups. Right now immigration is the number one thing over there, and then maybe pushing back some on the EU. they will still stay incredibly socialist free health care and education, taxes stay high, the government involved in every factor of your life. they will stay globalist but will just redefine how they partake in that global community.
 
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#97
#97
LouderVol said:
and just a reminder for everyone, what counts as "far right" in Europe means left of center in the US.

Pretty similar to the US, but there are only a few big items that separate the groups. Right now immigration is the number one thing over there, and then maybe pushing back some on the EU. they will still stay incredibly socialist free health care and education, taxes stay high, the government involved in every factor of your life. they will stay globalist but will just redefine how they partake in that global community.
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You left off continue to rely on the U.S. for defense to then be able to complain we are not climate compliant, offer free healthcare, and all the other lunatic liberal policies.
 
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#99
#99
Just accept that Europeans always find an excuse to wage another cut-throat war. It's their pastime sport to slaughter one another, and when practical, beg the USA to rescue them.
 
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#100
#100
WoodsmanVol said:
Just accept that Europeans always find an excuse to wage another cut-throat war. It's their pastime sport to slaughter one another, and when practical, beg the USA to rescue them.
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That is pretty much most the world. Issue is the Europeans have traditionally had bigger bombs than everyone else and been more problematic when they went to war (they also used to have Colonial Empires that they drug into their wars as well causing the wars to be global).
 
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