Poll: If you are a Trump supporter, do you consider him to be a “good Christian?”

Is Donald Trump someone you would call/consider a “good Christian?”

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 6.1%

  • No

    Votes: 67 58.3%

  • I like pie

    Votes: 31 27.0%

  • Turbo just vote here and save everyone time

    Votes: 10 8.7%
  • Total voters
    115
#901
#901
PEPPERJAX said:
This is where I am at.

While the righteous rest, those who were unrighteous in life will live in spirit prison (often referred to as “hell”). Spirit prison is not a final judgment or eternal punishment. Because God is loving and fair, those in prison will be taught the gospel of Jesus Christ and given the opportunity to accept the Savior, which can “make [them] free” (see John 8:32).

The spirit world is a waiting period until we receive the gift of resurrection, when our spirits will reunite with our bodies. Our future resurrected body cannot die and will be perfect—free from pain, sickness, and imperfections. It is because of the infinite love of Jesus Christ that everyone will be resurrected.
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So you're saying when I die I have to do bible study for eons until god decides to wrap this little experiment up?

****, send me to the fire and torment hell.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
Take it another step, if a man dies in a country that does not permit the teachings of Christ and never has the opportunity to hear the gospel, then what?
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Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

If anyone wants to know the true creator. God will send a missionary their way. That's why sometimes we read of missionaries going to foreign countries just to be killed. Their witness was rejected.
Also, even the most closed countries in the world have an underground church. I know a man personally that was a missionary to north Korea.
 
#905
#905
God has a way of getting the gospel where it needs to go.
 
#907
#907
BigO95 said:
Romans 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

If anyone wants to know the true creator. God will send a missionary their way. That's why sometimes we read of missionaries going to foreign countries just to be killed. Their witness was rejected.
Also, even the most closed countries in the world have an underground church. I know a man personally that was a missionary to north Korea.
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And little innocent children that die never having the opportunity to hear the Gospel? You do realize that some nations under theocratic rule do not allow foreign evangelism right? There is no possible way that everyone in a place like Iran would have the opportunity to hear the Gospel even if they desired or NK for that matter.
 
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#909
PEPPERJAX said:
And little innocent children that die never having the opportunity to hear the Gospel? You do realize that some nations under theocratic rule do not allow foreign evangelism right? There is no possible way that everyone in a place like Iran would have the opportunity to hear the Gospel even if they desired or NK for that matter.
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I'm saying, if someone was seeking the truth, God is able to send a witness. There are underground churches in those forbidden places. Just because you don't know about them, that doesn't mean that they aren't there.
Children that are too young to know the difference between right and wrong I believe are safe in the Lord.
 
#910
#910
BigO95 said:
I'm saying, if someone was seeking the truth, God is able to send a witness. There are underground churches in those forbidden places. Just because you don't know about them, that doesn't mean that they aren't there.
Children that are too young to know the difference between right and wrong I believe are safe in the Lord.
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Are they granted an exemption in the bible or is that something you choose to believe?
 
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#911
Their opportunities are very limited I will admit. But they will stand without excuse before God.
To whom much is given, much is required. Who has been given a greater opportunity to serve God than we here in America?
 
#912
#912
Behr said:
I do to and I did. I looked at what you gave me, you have something else?
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There’s tons of information out there. For me that was just the first random example. It does it in enough for me on the 2 witness rule. In this case 25 witnesses from Torah tells me which way this inconclusive verse falls.


Edit: that is to say the word used is “everlasting” which 2000 years ago meant permanency/final or with great power and not the 2024 definition of ongoing.

Sodom and Gomorrah are not currently on fire from the flames of its everlasting destruction
 
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BigO95 said:
Their opportunities are very limited I will admit. But they will stand without excuse before God.
To whom much is given, much is required. Who has been given a greater opportunity to serve God than we here in America?
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So per the bible a 5yo child of a devout Muslim that never allowed the child to be exposed to Christianity is going to hell?
 
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BigO95 said:
Their opportunities are very limited I will admit. But they will stand without excuse before God.
To whom much is given, much is required. Who has been given a greater opportunity to serve God than we here in America?
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You are depicting the creator as one who sets double standards for the inhabitants of Earth. BTW, from your earlier post, when are children old enough to determine right or wrong securing their salvation with God (If they die before hearing his word)? Not trying to beat you up over this but there are too many holes with your stances.
 
#917
#917
PEPPERJAX said:
You are depicting the creator as one who sets double standards for the inhabitants of Earth. BTW, from your earlier post, when are children old enough to determine right or wrong securing their salvation with God (If they die before hearing his word)? Not trying to beat you up over this but there are too many holes with your stances.
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I think children are born innocent and with the spirtual consciousness of right and wrong. As more and more wrong is performed, the conscious diminishes. You dont have to tell children that killing, stealing, or spiritual sin is wrong.
 
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hog88 said:
So per the bible a 5yo child of a devout Muslim that never allowed the child to be exposed to Christianity is going to hell?
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No.... Not a child that's never come to the knowledge of right and wrong. There's an age of innocence and an age of accountability. I personally think many factors such as I.Q training, maturity and so on... I believe that all children at the age of innocence is safe.
A bible example would be when David and Bathsheba had a baby in adultery and the baby died. David said that he couldn't bring the baby back but he could go to it.
 
#919
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BigO95 said:
No.... Not a child that's never come to the knowledge of right and wrong. There's an age of innocence and an age of accountability. I personally think many factors such as I.Q training, maturity and so on... I believe that all children at the age of innocence is safe.
A bible example would be when David and Bathsheba had a baby in adultery and the baby died. David said that he couldn't bring the baby back but he could go to it.
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So this is an issue where you are choosing what to believe and not the literal word within the bible?
 
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#920
hog88 said:
So this is an issue where you are choosing what to believe and not the literal word within the bible?
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Would you like me to quote the verses of the example I gave you? That was a bible example.
 
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#921
BigO95 said:
Would you like me to quote the verses of the example I gave you? That was a bible example.
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Wouldn't those verses contradict other verses you have already quoted in regards to the path to salvation?
 
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#923
I know we all have debated this in our minds, but I think the non witnessed are under the law ie 10 commandments that one is born with, the conscience, and the witnessed under acceptance. Nothing to Biblically back it up but would be interested in that thought.
 
#924
#924
Orangeburst said:
I know we all have debated this in our minds, but I think the non witnessed are under the law ie 10 commandments that one is born with, the conscience and the witnessed under acceptance. Nothing to Biblically back it up but would be interested in that thought.
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I personally believe that all lost people are under the condemnation of the law.
 
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