Poll: If you are a Trump supporter, do you consider him to be a “good Christian?”

[LouderVol]

The comparison to King Solomon is uncanny.

Trump just cuts the baby in half. problem solved.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Trump just cuts the baby in half. problem solved.

Then asks which half do you want

 

[LouderVol]

Then asks which half do you want

ask anyone they will tell you its the best cut they have ever seen. its yuge!

 

[Orangeslice13]

ask anyone they will tell you its the best cut they have ever seen. its yuge!

“Nobody cuts babies in half like I do. Perfect, on time , under budget, nobody “

 

[Jxn Vol]

All this baby dismemberment talk will have the lefty abortionists all turned on and excited.

 

[Septic]

Anyone that treats the word of God as you do clearly doesn't believe what it says.
Again, you are in trouble with your heresy you keep peddling. I simply care enough about you to tell you the truth.
I'm praying for you as sincerely as I know how.

word of god.

WTF does that even mean? Men wrote down things they'd heard about from other people that may or may not have even met Jesus and then those stories were edited.

 

[BigO95]

word of god.

WTF does that even mean? Men wrote down things they'd heard about from other people that may or may not have even met Jesus and then those stories were edited.

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

You will keep both of those appointments and then what?

 

[McDad]

word of god.

WTF does that even mean? Men wrote down things they'd heard about from other people that may or may not have even met Jesus and then those stories were edited.

Have you looked into Old Testament prophecy, which was well known and recited in synagogues for centuries before the events which fulfilled prophecy? Was that some dude's getting lucky, revisionist history after the fact, creative interpretation by those fulfilling prophecy, or something else entirely?

 

[BigO95]

Take a close look at the book of Daniel

 

[Septic]

Have you looked into Old Testament prophecy, which was well known and recited in synagogues for centuries before the events which fulfilled prophecy? Was that some dude's getting lucky, revisionist history after the fact, creative interpretation by those fulfilling prophecy, or something else entirely?

I guess if you have enough time and pressure, coal will eventually turn into a diamond. Same with prognostications, Occam's razer..

 

[GAVol]

word of god.

WTF does that even mean? Men wrote down things they'd heard about from other people that may or may not have even met Jesus and then those stories were edited.

I so wish we'd move past this current concept of inerrancy and people would stop asking me to put my brain on ice and ignore how the bible was constructed and the nonthreatening idea that 50 translations later words change and some things are bound to have their meanings altered.

 

[Septic]

Take a close look at the book of Daniel

You using the bible to prove the bible is true reminds me of this.

 

[BigO95]

You using the bible to prove the bible is true reminds me of this.

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Prophecy fulfilled in exact detail and the book of Daniel is full of those prophecies. Anyone who would care to take the time to give it a close honest look couldn't possibly deny it.
Daniel wrote world history in advance and then it happened just exactly like he said it would is no coincidence. The proof is right there in the pages of the scriptures and history backs it up. Only God could be that precise. Those were holy men of God inspired by God's Holy Ghost.
You'll have to give it a fair and honest look to see it. Or you could just close your eyes and pretend it never happened. The latter would be pretty dumb, but to each his own.

 

[davethevol]

I guess if you have enough time and pressure, coal will eventually turn into a diamond. Same with prognostications, Occam's razer..

Possibly. What about the book of Revelation and the mention of the end times’s mark of the beast. Doesn’t it appear as if we are getting closer to something where all transactions will be controlled by a government, and that we are much closer to a one world government as well?

 

[LouderVol]

I so wish we'd move past this current concept of inerrancy and people would stop asking me to put my brain on ice and ignore how the bible was constructed and the nonthreatening idea that 50 translations later words change and some things are bound to have their meanings altered.

lets not forget about 1000 years of the game of telephone across a group of people that was constantly being scattered, divided, and conquered by multiple outside cultures.

 

[hog88]

lets not forget about 1000 years of the game of telephone across a group of people that was constantly being scattered, divided, and conquered by multiple outside cultures.

And the fact that the vast majority of people were illiterate and the translators were working for kings or other people in power.

 

[Septic]

Possibly. What about the book of Revelation and the mention of the end times’s mark of the beast. Doesn’t it appear as if we are getting closer to something where all transactions will be controlled by a government, and that we are much closer to a one world government as well?

No. I think you've been watching too much TV.

People have been predicting the "end times" for a millennia. It's hard to sell salvation, so they use the old sales pitch of giving the buyer a sense of urgency to "don't delay, act now."

 

[Septic]

And the fact that the vast majority of people were illiterate and the translators were working for kings or other people in power.

"Render unto Caeser the things that are Caeser's"

I know the story but I wonder what it really cost Caeser to sneak this plug in?

 

[Orangeslice13]

No. I think you've been watching too much TV.

People have been predicting the "end times" for a millennia. It's hard to sell salvation, so they use the old sales pitch of giving the buyer a sense of urgency to "don't delay, act now."

“but wait, there’s more…..”

I don’t know if you’ve noticed or if it comes across this way but, I don’t actually care if you (general you, not you personally although the personal you applies) agree with me or not. My goal in sharing what I believe is to provoke thought. I want the people who I love and respect to examine and know what they truly believe independently of others. I believe a judgment is coming for us all. If you’re good with your understanding then so am I. I will poke at it from time to time just to keep you thinking.

I’m also willing to admit that I do that so I can be at peace with the fact that everyone I know, love and respect went to their judgment prepared in their own mind.

 

[Orangeslice13]

"Render unto Caeser the things that are Caeser's"

I know the story but I wonder what it really cost Caeser to sneak this plug in?

30 pieces of silver?

 

[MercyPercy]

Prophecy fulfilled in exact detail and the book of Daniel is full of those prophecies. Anyone who would care to take the time to give it a close honest look couldn't possibly deny it.
Daniel wrote world history in advance and then it happened just exactly like he said it would is no coincidence. The proof is right there in the pages of the scriptures and history backs it up. Only God could be that precise. Those were holy men of God inspired by God's Holy Ghost.
You'll have to give it a fair and honest look to see it. Or you could just close your eyes and pretend it never happened. The latter would be pretty dumb, but to each his own.

As far as I am aware there are no references from outside sources to the apocalyptic prophecies of the book of daniel until well after the events in question occurred. The prophecy that apparently existed since 600 BC but no one wrote about until after the fact?

If you actually poke your head outside of your bubble and read about the actual historicity of the book of daniel, you'll find that the only folks who support a 600 BC date are hardcore believers like yourself and have little to no actual evidence. The general consensus is that those stories were contemporary with Antiochus.

 

[Orangeslice13]

word of god.

WTF does that even mean? Men wrote down things they'd heard about from other people that may or may not have even met Jesus and then those stories were edited.

Is this one of your “I don’t really want to know “ posts or would you like a real answer?

I’m ok either way. I think it’s clear where you stand with me.

 

[Orangeslice13]

As far as I am aware there are no references from outside sources to the apocalyptic prophecies of the book of daniel until well after the events in question occurred. The prophecy that apparently existed since 600 BC but no one wrote about until after the fact?

If you actually poke your head outside of your bubble and read about the actual historicity of the book of daniel, you'll find that the only folks who support a 600 BC date are hardcore believers like yourself and have little to no actual evidence. The general consensus is that those stories were contemporary with Antiochus.

The oldest copy of the book of Daniel is from the Dead Sea scrolls and dates to late second century BCE at approximately 160 BCE or roughly 190 years before the messianic events.

 

[MercyPercy]

The oldest copy of the book of Daniel is from the Dead Sea scrolls and dates to late second century BCE at approximately 160 BCE or roughly 190 years before the messianic events.

I'm referring to the historical events often referenced in the prophecies regarding the four kingdoms, the wars and the timelines around them. If you're giving the writer credit for predicting a messiah, that's fine but not something I'm all that impressed by. Folks have been making similar predictions since the beginning of religion itself. Most jews are still waiting for that messiah as you know lol

 

[BigO95]

As far as I am aware there are no references from outside sources to the apocalyptic prophecies of the book of daniel until well after the events in question occurred. The prophecy that apparently existed since 600 BC but no one wrote about until after the fact?

If you actually poke your head outside of your bubble and read about the actual historicity of the book of daniel, you'll find that the only folks who support a 600 BC date are hardcore believers like yourself and have little to no actual evidence. The general consensus is that those stories were contemporary with Antiochus.

The devil absolutely hates the book because of the fulfilled prophecy. It wasn't written after the fact but many years before. Perhaps you should dig a little bit deeper in history.