Poll: If you are a Trump supporter, do you consider him to be a “good Christian?”

[landscapingvol]

@ClearwaterVol and I were discussing this in another thread. What say you?

It’s a dumb question and irrelevant. I don’t care what the President is as long he or she does a good job and limits the control of the government/spending

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Joe Biden is a good Catholic. He supports abortion, but he's a good Catholic.

 

[LouderVol]

The entire premise of this thread is dumb still as the day it was posted. It's not like anything on the left counters this. The Democrats literally Booed God at the democratic convention. Wether or not Trump is a Good Christian, or just like Most Christians a flawed man trying, he's infinately better then a party that seems to have identified it'self with all the tenants of Anton lavey. No one supporting the democratic party has a shred of morale ground to stand on and to criticize anyone else about faith. Your party hates humanity adopts anti human policy at every turn including killing babies, and disfiguring teens. You shriek every time anyone makes an appeal to God or faith. Do we think Trump is a good Christian? How about do we think the Democratic party has fully embraced Satanism in all but public name?

those are two separate issues.

the poll question was purely about Trump. had nothing to do with him as a candidate, or his competition. just Trump.

and instead of admitting he has flaws and leaving it at that, you instead are trying to deflect and avoid the actual subject.

 

[Sgt_Nick_Fury]

those are two separate issues.

the poll question was purely about Trump. had nothing to do with him as a candidate, or his competition. just Trump.

and instead of admitting he has flaws and leaving it at that, you instead are trying to deflect and avoid the actual subject.

Exactly it was a strawman argument, without any Merit, glad you admit it.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Still nope.

 

[hog88]

Still nope.

Agree even though I don't really know what a "good Christian" is.

 

[LouderVol]

Exactly it was a strawman argument, without any Merit, glad you admit it.

man you are hitting the copium hard today.

I hope whatever has you down in life passes quickly.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Agree even though I don't really know what a "good Christian" is.

Do any of us really know that.

 

[hog88]

Do any of us really know that.

No idea.

 

[Orangeslice13]

No idea.

I personally don’t like the term “Christian “ as it doesn’t really describe a follower of the Jesus of history. Most are at odds with his teachings, instead using a false interpretation (my opinion) of Paul. I call them “pauliethiest”. For people who say they follow messiah I go with “believers”.


That’s just me. I’m probably way off.

 

[hog88]

I personally don’t like the term “Christian “ as it doesn’t really describe a follower of the Jesus of history. Most are at odds with his teachings, instead using a false interpretation (my opinion) of Paul. I call them “pauliethiest”. For people who say they follow messiah I go with “believers”.


That’s just me. I’m probably way off.

One day we'll all find out.

 

[GVF]

Agree even though I don't really know what a "good Christian" is.

My answer would be a good Christian knows they're flawed but is committed to his faith nonetheless because he believes in the grace of God to guide their life. For comparison, I would not conider most televangelists in that category or any self-procliming look at me christian. If a person can't observe that you are a christian, regardless of imperfections, there's no need telling them you are.

 

[GVF]

I personally don’t like the term “Christian “ as it doesn’t really describe a follower of the Jesus of history. Most are at odds with his teachings, instead using a false interpretation (my opinion) of Paul. I call them “pauliethiest”. For people who say they follow messiah I go with “believers”.


That’s just me. I’m probably way off.

Not necessarily. Unfortunately the term Christian has evolved over time into an broad umbrella for a faith category under which many denominations reside. And would be akin to saying you're Jewish or hindu, etc.

It used to mean you were a believer or follower of Christ. However, I don't recall that term being coined in the Bible.

 

[McDad]

Agree even though I don't really know what a "good Christian" is.

It is our human nature to understand what is the most important, or the top priority. The disciples of Jesus were no different. When they asked Him what are the most important commands, He said, (paraphrased), Love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and love your neighbor as yourself.

I think a "good Christian" would have these two at the core of their identity and work on applying them in their daily life.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

No on truly knows what's in his heart but he shows none of the character traits that you see in a Christian (honesty, respect, empathy, compassion, modesty, etc)...

 

[jvol1]

I personally don’t like the term “Christian “ as it doesn’t really describe a follower of the Jesus of history. Most are at odds with his teachings, instead using a false interpretation (my opinion) of Paul. I call them “pauliethiest”. For people who say they follow messiah I go with “believers”.


That’s just me. I’m probably way off.

Which false interpretation is that?

 

[McDad]

Not necessarily. Unfortunately the term Christian has evolved over time into an broad umbrella for a faith category under which many denominations reside. And would be akin to saying you're Jewish or hindu, etc.

It used to mean you were a believer or follower of Christ. However, I don't recall that term being coined in the Bible.

I suspect you already know this but for those who don't:

In Acts, letter to Antioch is the first time. The Greek was 'follower of Christ' but translates into "Christian" in our Bibles. That was the first time we see in the Word followers of The Way used such a phrase.

 

[lostsheep]

I personally don’t like the term “Christian “ as it doesn’t really describe a follower of the Jesus of history. Most are at odds with his teachings, instead using a false interpretation (my opinion) of Paul. I call them “pauliethiest”. For people who say they follow messiah I go with “believers”.


That’s just me. I’m probably way off.

Interesting take. Not that I disagree, but am curious as to what you consider to be the primary differences in those identifying as "Christians" (or "pauliethiest"), and those you would consider "believers?"

 

[GVF]

No on truly knows what's in his heart but he shows none of the character traits that you see in a Christian (honesty, respect, empathy, compassion, modesty, etc)...

One could not argue that. But if he's superficial in his effort to portray himself as such, he's probably not far removed from finding those asnwers himself. If he's genuine, and though visibly impaired to several degrees, then he does have grace maybe and in the end he wins. Most of his traits have been acceptable in previous presidents and lawmakers, which is why the persecution of him by the left garners so much fervor in this country.

I would equate my nephew's struggles in life with addiction and such maybe to Trump's flaws...yet still trying. 15 years of heroine and run-ins with the law and probations and such and one may not say he is a chrstian. But, he is, and has always loved God and family, especially his grandad. Has one of the finest hearts in a person you will ever find. And has been clean and productively employed for over 6 years now. So, it's kinda hard to cast judgement when a persons life is never complete until they hit the 6 foot mark.

 

[creekdipper]

Do any of us really know that.

Well, yeah.

 

[McDad]

DOne could not argue that. But if he's superficial in his effort to portray himself as such, he's probably not far removed from finding those asnwers himself. If he's genuine, and though visibly impaired to several degrees, then he does have grace maybe and in the end he wins. Most of his traits have been acceptable in previous presidents and lawmakers, which is why the persecution of him by the left garners so much fervor in this country.

What if Mojo had phrased this way;
...he shows none of the character traits that you HOPE TO see in a Christian APPLY...

 

[volbound1700]

The sad truth is that a serious Christian that follows the scriptures accurately would have a hard time advancing far enough in politics to even run for President.

There is too much corruption in our system to allow someone that is "pure" to win.

 

[Orangeslice13]

One day we'll all find out.

The hard way.
I’m not worried about it. I’ve submitted myself to the G-d of my father’s a long time ago. If my destruction is ordered so be it.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Not necessarily. Unfortunately the term Christian has evolved over time into an broad umbrella for a faith category under which many denominations reside. And would be akin to saying you're Jewish or hindu, etc.

It used to mean you were a believer or follower of Christ. However, I don't recall that term being coined in the Bible.

No disagreement here

 

[Orangeslice13]

No on truly knows what's in his heart but he shows none of the character traits that you see in a Christian (honesty, respect, empathy, compassion, modesty, etc)...

Outwardly expressing an inward faith