Poll: If you are a Trump supporter, do you consider him to be a “good Christian?”

[McDad]

It's not weak to use that as a reason for relevance. It is 100% relevant as to why I care what religious doctrine dictates virtually every major civil/social policy we have.

You are right.

 

[Sea Ray]

You are missing my point which is that the religious right is quite willing to judge and criticize a Dem who did 1/10th of what Truno did. But ignore Trump's repeated misconstrued.

And his words. What Christian hopes his political enemies burn in Hell, and on Christmas ?

I'm not aware of what words you're referring to from the religious right of a Dem that did 1/10 of what Trump did. Most Trump supporters I know support him due to his policies not his behaviors

 

[McDad]

No good can come from attacking ideology. It is a colossal waste of time.

 

[Jxn Vol]

No good can come from attacking ideology. It is a colossal waste of time.

Leftists have not found anything they won’t attack.

Except pedophilia.

 

[EasternVol]

To say that hasn’t been successful is stupid.

His casino in AC went belly up. Yeah he's a real savvy businessman.

 

[McDad]

Does fighting against religious mythos or secular justification on a message board change bad policy?

Are we who care taking the fight to those making bad policy? If not, do we really gas beyond a topic of contention?

 

[hog88]

His casino in AC went belly up. Yeah he's a real savvy businessman.

A whole bunch of AC casinos went belly up.

 

[McDad]

Leftists have not found anything they won’t attack.

Except pedophilia.

Is the log in the rightist's eye removed or are we doing that before the splinter in the leftist's eye is addressed?

 

[volfanhill]

Why would someone need to be a supporter to consider his Christianity?

Because our original discussion was about how his supporters view him.

 

[EasternVol]

A whole bunch of AC casinos went belly up.

True, but if he was such a good businessman he would have cut and run before it did go belly up, It's not like the market left overnight.

 

[McDad]

If you had a concern about religious fervor guiding policy, Trump would be a good candidate. I'm not aware of any social policy that he championed coming from a place of his religious conviction. But unfortunately, it's not enough is it? What we really want are good people making good policy (or no policy at all) independent of their religious or secular Passions

 

[hog88]

True, but if he was such a good businessman he would have cut and run before it did go belly up, It's not like the market left overnight.

Lots of great businessmen have had bankruptcies in their portfolio.

 

[EasternVol]

Lots of great businessmen have had bankruptcies in their portfolio.

Good point. Donnie's apparently not one of them. What I read indicates he hasn't substantially increased his worth over what he inherited.

 

[McDad]

Christianity in our socio-economic culture has been the catalyst for much good...and good that continues for decades long after the founders are dead.
The bad elements of any movement are the worst PR and used as examples of homogeneity.

 

[McDad]

I understand the frustration with faith based policy. I experience it with policy combating leader's faith in human-caused climate change.

 

[CobbVol]

It's not weak to use that as a reason for relevance. It is 100% relevant as to why I care what religious doctrine dictates virtually every major civil/social policy we have.

Correct. That is what the country was founded upon.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Is the log in the rightist's eye removed or are we doing that before the splinter in the leftist's eye is addressed?

Mcdude, We all have logs. Left logs. Right logs. Middle logs. Pointing out logs is a log.

 

[hog88]

Good point. Donnie's apparently not one of them. What I read indicates he hasn't substantially increased his worth over what he inherited.

LOL

What you have read is incorrect. It's been discussed here a few times that his net worth would be greater had he took his inheritance and invested in the stock market rather than real-estate but I can't believe to think his inheritance was greater than his current net worth.

 

[McDad]

Mcdude, We all have logs. Left logs. Right logs. Middle logs. Pointing out logs is a log.

Aren't you and I specifically expected to address our logs before addressing other's splinters?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Is the log in the rightist's eye removed or are we doing that before the splinter in the leftist's eye is addressed?

He'll get back to you after a quick word with the big guy. He's the epitome of piety, you know.

 

[EasternVol]

LOL

What you have read is incorrect. It's been discussed here a few times that his net worth would be greater had he took his inheritance and invested in the stock market rather than real-estate but I can't believe to think his inheritance was greater than his current net worth.

That's not what I wrote. I mean of course in real dollars.
Has he really improved on what Fred left him?

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Correct. That is what the country was founded upon.

Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness aren't even remotely exclusive to Biblical tenets.

This ain't a theocracy, hoss.

 

[Orangeburst]

As far as I am concerned religion is a belief system much like humanism, atheism, or evolution being secular religions themselves.

 

[McDad]

As far as I am concerned religion is a belief system much like humanism, atheism, or evolution being secular religions themselves.

Agreed. Faith is everywhere. Even those who eschew faith, have faith in something or someone.

 

[Orangeburst]

Agreed. Faith is everywhere. Even those who eschew faith, have faith in something or someone.

Most of what we see today has something to do with faith in man, ie government leaders, etc. All the same time nobody with any sense could at the same time not admit that all men are terribly flawed, That is a disconnect I cant get over and just an extension of Hobbes vs Rousseau.