Poll: If you are a Trump supporter, do you consider him to be a “good Christian?”

Is Donald Trump someone you would call/consider a “good Christian?”

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 6.1%
  • No

    Votes: 67 58.3%
  • I like pie

    Votes: 31 27.0%
  • Turbo just vote here and save everyone time

    Votes: 10 8.7%

  • Total voters
    115
Most of what we see today has something to do with faith in man, ie government leaders, etc. All the same time nobody with any sense could at the same time not admit that all men are terribly flawed, That is a disconnect I cant get over and just an extension of Hobbes vs Rousseau.
Dropping philosophers in the VNPF today.

Nice.
 
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I really doubt that there are many/hardly any billionaire businessmen that aren't ruthless. Being ruthless isn't necessarily a bad quality.
You don't have to be a billionaire to have been an ultra successful businessman. As far as Trump goes, his wealth has been built owning, not creating or building anything. In fact, he's been somewhat of a failure starting businesses from scratch
 
Aren't you and I specifically expected to address our logs before addressing other's splinters?
Mcdude, Absolutely we are. We are supposed to follow 10 Commandments and all that. But I can speak for myself that I fail all the time. We all have logs. I’ve said this a dozen times. So pointing out what we are all supposed to do is fine. But in reality it achieves only whatever you get from it.
 
You don't have to be a billionaire to have been an ultra successful businessman. As far as Trump goes, his wealth has been built owning, not creating or building anything. In fact, he's been somewhat of a failure starting businesses from scratch

I don't even know what this means?
his wealth has been built owning, not creating or building anything

He's built numerous buildings and developments.
 
I don't even know what this means?


He's built numerous buildings and developments.

He's built some developments---but not in a very long time, at least 20 years, I'd guess. I don't think he's even bought anything significant in ages. Western banks with the exception of Deutche Bank stopped doing loan deals with his company years ago--and according to the article linked here, Deutche Bank is ending its relationship with him. His game over the last 20 years has been branding deals--which I would describe as conning others--especially foreigners-- into building golf courses/hotels/condos--and then putting his name on the development. So he takes none of the risk and gets a cut of the sales action. But as this late 2021 article notes, the gangster's politics have damaged his business. I would not be too bullish on the prospects for the Trump Co. going forward. The name is toxic.


Excerpt: "Experts say the prospect of any new Trump-branded development faces long odds. One hotel industry executive said hotel developers – worried about cutting themselves off from the millions of customers turned off by Trump – will likely think twice before signing any branding deals to put the Trump name on their properties."

Here's a Feb. 2023 Bloomberg headline:

Trump’s 40 Wall St. Put on Lender Watch as Vacancies, Costs Rise​

The lower Manhattan skyscraper — Trump’s most valuable — has a mortgage balance of $126.5 million.

http://bloom.bg/dg-ws-core-bcom-m1
By John Gittelsohn
February 10, 2023 at 3:34 PM EST
 
He's built some developments---but not in a very long time, at least 20 years, I'd guess. I don't think he's even bought anything significant in ages. Western banks with the exception of Deutche Bank stopped doing loan deals with his company years ago--and according to the article linked here, Deutche Bank is ending its relationship with him. His game over the last 20 years has been branding deals--which I would describe as conning others--especially foreigners-- into building golf courses/hotels/condos--and then putting his name on the development. So he takes none of the risk and gets a cut of the sales action. But as this late 2021 article notes, the gangster's politics have damaged his business. I would not be too bullish on the prospects for the Trump Co. going forward. The name is toxic.


Excerpt: "Experts say the prospect of any new Trump-branded development faces long odds. One hotel industry executive said hotel developers – worried about cutting themselves off from the millions of customers turned off by Trump – will likely think twice before signing any branding deals to put the Trump name on their properties."

Here's a Feb. 2023 Bloomberg headline:

Trump’s 40 Wall St. Put on Lender Watch as Vacancies, Costs Rise​

The lower Manhattan skyscraper — Trump’s most valuable — has a mortgage balance of $126.5 million.

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By John Gittelsohn
February 10, 2023 at 3:34 PM EST

That has been debunked so many times but I'm not surprised you would continue to fall for that falshood.

He opened the Trump International in DC 2016 and sold the lease in 2022 for 375 million. So not quite 20 years.
 

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