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They couldn’t legally practice with the team after the Season started
My understanding was that redshirts could practice with the team. When did this change? In the old days, academic redshirts or partial qualifiers couldn’t practice with the team, but that’s not what we’re talking about here.
 
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My understanding was that redshirts could practice with the team. When did this change? In the old days, academic redshirts or partial qualifiers couldn’t practice with the team, but that’s not what we’re talking about here.

yes redshirts can practice IF they are on the official roster. These 3 weren’t
 
look you guys are missing the entire point here

the 3 kids I named didn’t make the 40 man roster. They were cut before the season started. One went on to Walters and the other two presumably finished the semester classes. They can’t legally practice with the team if they aren’t on the 40man
Honest question, how typical is it that RS guys make the 40 man? I can only find 3; Sloop, Chapman and Hunley (maybe Backus? don’t really don’t know what his status was). If CTV was truly RS them would there be a reason to be on the 40 man? Perhaps the ones you would pull the RS off of in a pinch are the ones you put on the 40 man?
 
Honest question, how typical is it that RS guys make the 40 man? I can only find 3; Sloop, Chapman and Hunley (maybe Backus? don’t really don’t know what his status was). If CTV was truly RS them would there be a reason to be on the 40 man? Perhaps the ones you would pull the RS off of in a pinch are the ones you put on the 40 man?

it’s all about numbers

You would want your “real” prospects to be able to participate in every practice and such

Backus was a medical redshirt I’m sure

also remember all scholarship players count against the 40 unless there is some kind of medical waiver
 
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(Zellem and Ebbing) were redshirted so could practice with the team and Ryan Miller was on the roster. What 3 were you referring to?
He continually changes the subject and omits to answer questions when he is caught out like you caught him out. Preacherman asked him for examples since there were so many according to Bruin. The only 2 he could come up with were exactly Zellem and Ebbing. That's why he didn't answer your question, and changed the subject to your guess that he may have also meant Miller. That is a hallmark troll move. He had later added as his third example Gagen; but then he corrected himself and said, well, Gagen went to pitch at Walter State. When he was asked: Couldn't the others (of Bruin's imagination) have done that too, Bruin again didn't answer.

So he has no examples. He skipped the entire season posting here. He came in full bore attacking CTV non-stop when the portal opened. He also said (accidentally) (it was an irrefutable implication, not directly stated) that he opposed "the only way Tennessee could win" baseball games (in his opinion). That is about as antagonistic as one can get. All of this garbage amounts to him being angry that we are winning. And an addiction to bickering. His initial attack when he returned was cheering new rules against early commitments because, he charged, Vitello was "the worst" about that. He was ill-willed and feckless enough to call Preacherman a liar yesterday. 🙄

His posts -- negative and attacking -- in the past few days now total 15 pages at about 20 posts per page, if you look at his post history. As long as someone answers him, he will overrun a thread with his anti-Vitello and anti-Vol garbage. He is not a Vols fan.

He has a history of doing this same garbage in football in the past. But I think most people there now ignore him, which may be why he is all-the-sudden here. He skipped all of last football season because we were winning. Just like he skipped this past baseball season with the great second half and the CWS win.

It's weird that he thinks he is clever. If anyone answers him, he takes that as winning. I won't mention him again. I just wanted you to know that you were right about Zellem and Ebbing, and that this is how he rolls.
 
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He continually changes the subject and omits to answer questions when he is caught out like you caught him out. Preacherman asked him for examples since there were so many according to Bruin. The only 2 he could come up with were exactly Zellem and Ebbing. That's why he didn't answer your question, and changed the subject to your guess that he may have also meant Miller. That is a hallmark troll move. He had later added as his third example Gagen; but then he corrected himself and said, well, Gagen went to pitch at Walter State. When he was asked: Couldn't the others (of Bruin's imagination) have done that too, Bruin again didn't answer.

So he has no examples. He skipped the entire season posting here. He came in full bore attacking CTV non-stop when the portal opened. He also said (accidentally) (it was an irrefutable implication, not directly stated) that he opposed "the only way Tennessee could win" baseball games (in his opinion). That is about as antagonistic as one can get. All of this garbage amounts to him being angry that we are winning. His initial attack when he returned was cheering new rules against early commitments because, he charged, Vitello was "the worst" about that. He was ill-willed and feckless enough to call Preacherman a liar yesterday. 🙄

His posts -- negative and attacking -- in the past few days now total 15 pages at about 20 posts per page, if you look at his post history. As long as someone answers him, he will overrun a thread with his anti-Vitello and anti-Vol garbage.

He has a history of doing this same garbage in football in the past. But I think most people there now ignore him, which may be why he is all-the-sudden here. He skipped all of last football season because we were winning. Just like he skipped this past baseball season with the great second half and the CWS win.

It's weird that he thinks he is clever. If anyone answers him, he takes that as winning. I won't mention him again. I just wanted you to know that you were right about Zellem and Ebbing, and that this is how he rolls.

I mean if you are going to make that long of a post at least be accurate…..

you left out the 3rd name ….

GAGEN
 
Depends when they were told

By rule tv doesn’t have to announce
His 40man until the day before the first game.

But even if they were told at the end of November they might still choose to stay since the NCAA doesn’t allow mid year transfers. NAIA or juco is the only Option and that’s a shame

By rule they can still work with the strength and conditioning staff and access facilities they just can’t travel or practice with the team

So, with a 40-man roster, do you suggest that we recruit 10 players per year and then call it a day? Because I don't think that would work out too well for us. You yourself noted at the beginning of all this banter that this is the only approach that will give us any shot of success, so I don't know what the point is.

CTV is the head coach of an SEC baseball team. He has to live in the real world where there are limitations and intense competition, and he doesn't have the luxury of living in a fantasy world where everyone is guaranteed to hit the field.

Our recruits have elected to take on the challenge of competing at the highest level of college baseball and I applaud them for that. It's no secret to anyone that it's not going to work out for all of them. If it doesn't work out, then thankfully they now have the opportunity to transfer in search of a better fit. You might consider that learning under our top notch coaching staff and with resources available at UT may benefit these guys even if they have to head elsewhere to play.
 
So, with a 40-man roster, do you suggest that we recruit 10 players per year and then call it a day? Because I don't think that would work out too well for us. You yourself noted at the beginning of all this banter that this is the only approach that will give us any shot of success, so I don't know what the point is.

CTV is the head coach of an SEC baseball team. He has to live in the real world where there are limitations and intense competition, and he doesn't have the luxury of living in a fantasy world where everyone is guaranteed to hit the field.

Our recruits have elected to take on the challenge of competing at the highest level of college baseball and I applaud them for that. It's no secret to anyone that it's not going to work out for all of them. If it doesn't work out, then thankfully they now have the opportunity to transfer in search of a better fit. You might consider that learning under our top notch coaching staff and with resources available at UT may benefit these guys even if they have to head elsewhere to play.

I’ve always said I think there is a difference between oversigning by 5 per class and by 10 per class. Tv is always on the high end

BUT as long as the NCAA has their head in the ass and don’t change the rules I don’t blame him. I just won’t support it
 
I’ve always said I think there is a difference between oversigning by 5 per class and by 10 per class. Tv is always on the high end

BUT as long as the NCAA has their head in the ass and don’t change the rules I don’t blame him. I just won’t support it

Well, the SEC tried to limit football signing to 25/year, but I routinely see teams above this. Unfortunately, if Saban comes up with some creative bookkeeping to oversign, then everyone will have to do it to be competitive.
 
Well, the SEC tried to limit football signing to 25/year, but I routinely see teams above this. Unfortunately, if Saban comes up with some creative bookkeeping to oversign, then everyone will have to do it to be competitive.

Yea there are always loopholes
 
I would rather my coach over-recruit and have to find places for kids to go than to under-recruit and set my program back a couple years because he is left scrambling to find replacements. Tony has won 2 SEC Championships, been to 2 CWS, and had one of the best teams of all-time just a season ago. 1 game away from 3 straight CWS appearances. That is unheard of for our program. I think I would trust he knows what he is doing. If you don’t want to support him then go cheer for Vanderbilt, Arkansas, and LSU. We all know they are the angels of the sport and can do no wrong.
 
I did not think it was possible for the baseball forum to feel like a football forum, but this is just proof that certain posters can make anything a miserable experience for everyone if they try hard enough.

Tell preach man to stop asking questions that are Bp fastballs
 

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