Portal Activity (News and Rumors)

[volman128]

I dont care who's better. Stark and Charlie have been here. I'd rather see them get their shot than just buying All Stars out of the portal. I don't care about this Pebbles kid or Ammick. I want to see the kids who have been in the program.

IOW, you'd rather be on your high horse than win.

 

[taylorvol]

It’s def not a brand new team at all. We aren’t replacing at 9 position starters like the year before, return some pitching. The portal doesn’t suck especially for baseball. A lot kids would transfer to juco before goin back D1 baseball. Tennessee is doing what it needs to to be in a position to be a championship contender again.

It pretty much sucks. Too much attrition and one year rentals. Many will be gone before you learn their names. I‘m not sure how this will play out but feels like UK basketball with their one and done “team“.

 

[malkmusvol]

Agreed. Each person should be able to treat it differently

remember the op suggested it all should stay within the confines of the lockeroom. That’s not allowing each person to handle it differently

OP seems to be speaking from the perspective of a teammate. We are all speaking from the perspective of a fan. I would imagine that someone that knows the kids personally would have a hard time understanding why someone who pulls for a team because of the colors they wear would be so upset and filled with vitriol. I get the disconnect on his perspective. There is nothing rational about being a sports fan. We as fans need to understand why the team may feel differently than us but we do not have to agree with it.

We both need each other to make this thing work. Them to be great, inspire, distract us from our lives, and perform and us to care/spend money. A weird relationship for sure.

 

[OldTimer]

I dont care who's better. Stark and Charlie have been here. I'd rather see them get their shot than just buying All Stars out of the portal. I don't care about this Pebbles kid or Ammick. I want to see the kids who have been in the program.

unfortunately for better or worse, the landscape of college sports has changed forever. I'm glad we have a baseball coach who has accepted the facts and is out in front of the "new system" and using to to his advantage. We will still have 4 year guys that stick it out and contribute however when a hole is needed to be filled quickly, the portal is a necessary evil that all great/good teams will use to their advantage.

 

[knoxvol52]

IOW, you'd rather be on your high horse than win.

I actually see both sides here they are getting an all around better catcher,but these other guys committed here because they thought Tennessee was there best opportunity to play. I really like Taylor im sure he is a terrific young man but I think the SEC is just a little above his talent level. I know it's way above my level when I was in school years ago.

 

[taylorvol]

They where transfers also.

Not Lindsey. He sat out a year and then transferred in. Much different scenario. Plus Dollander was before NIL IIRC.

 

[D3Athlete]

It pretty much sucks. Too much attrition and one year rentals. Many will be gone before you learn their names. I‘m not sure how this will play out but feels like UK basketball with their one and done “team“.

This has to be Mr. Checkerboards burner account here on VN.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Tennessee is having a great week.
Why are so many people upset?

It’s only one person.

 

[BruinVol]

Why would/did you say those things about Kirby and @preacherman20 4 years ago? Seems very spiteful and odd (trying to be nice here) to call out a player and his Father in that manner.

The preacher was downgrading walkons that were recruited and with the team in the fall and didn’t make the 35 man roster. I found that to be especially unbecoming of a parent snubbing their nose at players that had committed to playing for the Vols only to see their dreams snatched away by a coach that over recruits.

Keep in mind for every good ending like his son has seen come true there are multiple bad ones…

For me I treat all kids that are recruited to play at any program as more than a number…he doesn’t

 

[KptVFL]

It pretty much sucks. Too much attrition and one year rentals. Many will be gone before you learn their names. I‘m not sure how this will play out but feels like UK basketball with their one and done “team“.

I get the uproar over the tranfers but it IS the way now. If you don't adapt then you get left behind.

I'm not a fan of it either but when all of your competition is doing the same thing then your hands are tied. The cat is out of the bag. Even if CTV were to choose to not take tansfers there would be many other teams out there coming after our guys. Would be nearly impossible to compete!

 

[taylorvol]

This has to be Mr. Checkerboards burner account here on VN.

Step off. Been here since 2009. I just prefer the 2022 type of team. Lots of home grown talent. We likely won’t see anything like Trey Lipscomb, Jorel Ortega, or Cortland Lawson ever again. I get that times change but not Necessarily for the better. I appreciate what CTV is doing under the current NIL rules. CTV is on record saying that the portal is a necessary evil, and isn’t a fan of it.

 

[Christian Lowe]

With Kendall Rogers reporting Tennessee will get a monster commit this weekend how you feeling about Amick?

Ben McKee: That it's down to South Carolina and Tennessee. But A&M and UF are also lingering.

Update from TOS on Amick.

 

[taylorvol]

I get the uproar over the tranfers but it IS the way now. If you don't adapt then you get left behind.

I'm not a fan of it either but when all of your competition is doing the same thing then your hands are tied. The cat is out of the bag. Even if CTV were to choose to not take tansfers there would be many other teams out there coming after our guys. Would be nearly impossible to compete!

You and I are 100% in agreement. I appreciate CTV’s hard work and am glad he’s leveraging current environment for improving the team. I just don’t like the one year rentals. It’s going to make the rich richer and less HS seniors will be recruited by P5.

 

[Christian Lowe]

I don’t have much to report right now on Clemson transfer Billy Amick, which is obviously the chief target that South Carolina fans want to know about. I don’t know a lot of the specifics of what made an impression on him at Tennessee, but do know that it was very positive for the Volunteers. That trip has concluded and he’s back home now. I hope to have another update later this evening.

Update on Amick from John Wittle, USCe beat guy

 

[preacherman20]

The preacher was downgrading walkons that were recruited and with the team in the fall and didn’t make the 35 man roster. I found that to be especially unbecoming of a parent snubbing their nose at players that had committed to playing for the Vols only to see their dreams snatched away by a coach that over recruits.

Keep in mind for every good ending like his son has seen come true there are multiple bad ones…

For me I treat all kids that are recruited to play at any program as more than a number…he doesn’t

Difference of opinion then and now on what I said. He does not like how we recruit then and now and I think it is smart business. I think you go get the best players, give them a chance to earn a spot, and some times guys leave. Whether they are walk-ons, preferred walk-ons, scholarship guys, juco transfers, portal transfers, or NIL guys.

 

[BruinVol]

Difference of opinion then and now on what I said. He does not like how we recruit then and now and I think it is smart business. I think you go get the best players, give them a chance to earn a spot, and some times guys leave. Whether they are walk-ons, preferred walk-ons, scholarship guys, juco transfers, portal transfers, or NIL guys.

But they aren’t to be respected and treated as teammates until they make the roster in February correct???

Hopefully that’s changed as that was one sorry take you had a few years back

 

[KptVFL]

You and I are 100% in agreement. I appreciate CTV’s hard work and am glad he’s leveraging current environment for improving the team. I just don’t like the one year rentals. It’s going to make the rich richer and less HS seniors will be recruited by P5.

Yep!

When it's this bad for the P5 schools just imagine the Walter States of the world.

Zero chance of keeping your best players. At least the P5 schools have a shot.

 

[taylorvol]

The preacher was downgrading walkons that were recruited and with the team in the fall and didn’t make the 35 man roster. I found that to be especially unbecoming of a parent snubbing their nose at players that had committed to playing for the Vols only to see their dreams snatched away by a coach that over recruits.

Keep in mind for every good ending like his son has seen come true there are multiple bad ones…

For me I treat all kids that are recruited to play at any program as more than a number…he doesn’t

Does any successful P5 program only have 35 players at camp in the Fall? Many players can’t handle the demands of the program, College life, or their newly found independence, and will leave on their own. Others aren’t putting in the work or don’t rise to the level of competition so don’t understand why you wouldn’t have several extra players to compete.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

Heupel please take note

Lmao...CJH doesn't need any help recruiting...he's doing just fine.

 

[BruinVol]

Does any successful P5 program only have 35 players at camp in the Fall? Many players can’t handle the demands of the program, College life, or their newly found independence, and will leave on their own. Others aren’t putting in the work or don’t rise to the level of competition so don’t understand why you wouldn’t have several extra players to compete.

No they all cut and that’s fine but by golly those kids that get cut count as people and not numbers. He said his son wouldn’t treat them as teammates until they made the roster
that’s some bs

 

[D3Athlete]

Step off. Been here since 2009. I just prefer the 2022 type of team. Lots of home grown talent. We likely won’t see anything like Trey Lipscomb, Jorel Ortega, or Cortland Lawson ever again. I get that times change but not Necessarily for the better. I appreciate what CTV is doing under the current NIL rules. CTV is on record saying that the portal is a necessary evil, and isn’t a fan of it.

really like really. Home grown talent
So:
Drew Beam, Christian Moore, Blake Burke, Hunter Ensley, Tears, Wyatt Evans, Drieling, Chapman, Zander Sechrist, Aj Russell arent home grown talent, guys that have come in as freshman that have/had made an impact already. All those I just named are gonna make it, and not counting freshman you didn’t get much time past season that will.
It’s not like Tennessee is going out and getting 10 plus guys. They aren’t. Tennessee is getting 6 at max that fills holes on the team and doesn’t put the pressure on freshman who aren’t ready.

 

[beefvol44]

Can we get a new thread about transfers news?

 

[preacherman20]

No they all cut and that’s fine but by golly those kids that get cut count as people and not numbers. He said his son wouldn’t treat them as teammates until they made the roster
that’s some bs

That is a lie. I said there are walk-ons and preferred walk-ons. Walk-ons are there by their choice and preferred walk-ons are recruited are recruited and given a spot. Actually the funny thing is since our discussion, there have been some of my son's teammates that admitted they were not recruited by the past coaching staff but walked on and earned their spot. He made it out to be that there is no difference between walk-ons and preferred walk-ons. Tried to say I was discrediting them because they were not recruited. Obviously after 4 years of watching me, you guys know that is not the truth but he still holds his narrative. He is a negative fan who only comes on here to trash the coaches. He does not like and never has liked Coach V and I called him on it back then and still do today.

 

[volman128]

Step off. Been here since 2009. I just prefer the 2022 type of team. Lots of home grown talent. We likely won’t see anything like Trey Lipscomb, Jorel Ortega, or Cortland Lawson ever again. I get that times change but not Necessarily for the better. I appreciate what CTV is doing under the current NIL rules. CTV is on record saying that the portal is a necessary evil, and isn’t a fan of it.

I agree it's not ideal but saying something like "I'd rather see a catcher that can't even reach the Mendoza line over a freshman AA" is absurd. If any position is begging for an upgrade via the portal it's catcher. Also, transfers happened prior to the portal/NIL. It's not like every player that transfers is doing it for NIL reasons, so his description as such is head-scratching if not ridiculous.

 

[VolMarine1371]

I dont care who's better. Stark and Charlie have been here. I'd rather see them get their shot than just buying All Stars out of the portal. I don't care about this Pebbles kid or Ammick. I want to see the kids who have been in the program.

So you rather not upgrade the roster while everyone else is and sit the best players on the bench because they been here longer? I see winning isn’t a priority with you then. This is a business and if you don’t Perform you will be recruited over. If you want to play perform when given the chance.