'25 Portal Thread

Couldn’t have said it better…and severe leg injuries often take longer to truly come back from…best case he takes a leap in his 2nd season post-injury…worst case he’s a depth piece that knows the offense inside and out and can be a great mentor to the youngins
Absolutely!! Leg injuries, like Bru had, take a long time to fully heal. Even after you heal, there's a mental healing process that takes place, imo. You have to physically heal and also mentally heal to where you are not hesitant to plant your leg in a route or cut or to just put your feet in the ground and take off. Also taking hits are something you have to get accustomed to when you come back from an injury like he had. I definitely think a 2nd season postinjury would do nothing but help Bru and TN become a better team. Even if they did move him to TE, he would make a difference. Possibly a bigger one.
 
Lol we’ve been over this. The roster page is a mistake. The individual page shows he’s the #57 player in their composite, every individual site had him as a 4-star out of HS, and even UT Sports calls him a “consensus 4-star”.
You can go over whatever you want to go over. Have your argument with 247 since that's their page- not mine.

Even as a 4* that refutes BOT's whole narrative. He routinely ignores 3* or less guys who dramatically outperform their rankings. Any time highly rated players are successful he slobbers out some claim that stars mean everything... but when they underperform which a lot of them do... he dismisses it like you are or ignores it completely.

Stars mean "something". They don't mean everything. Based on draft numbers, for every 5* level talent the recruiting sites give 5* they miss at least two guys at 3* or below. The 4* ratings are even muddier. Roughly 20% will be drafted and a disproportionate number will never become contributors even at the college level.

He acts as if I've said they have no value at all or are always inaccurate. I haven't. In fact, I have regularly said that a composite like 247 does is very useful. Coaches who know talent will average out in that list. They'll even do better with their 3* recruits. For instance, McCoy has never played like a 5* player anywhere. However UT's 247 average does seem to put them in the top 20 most talented programs in CFB... and reality on the field has born that out.

I've simply pointed out they are FAR from perfect... and that perfection isn't even the goal. The goal is to make money off fans hungry to know about their team's recruiting. BOT for whatever reason disagrees or simply does not have the ability to understand.

PS- this isn't some new thing for us. Any time the scenario plays out and teams with "stars" do well... he calls me out. Again, as if I don't recognize somehow that those teams are talented and that the recruiting sites recognized it. The problem is that they don't find ALL players of equal caliber and they routinely overrate players. He also seems to think those "evaluators" look across the country and independently evaluate every good/great player. They don't. They depend HEAVILY on following certain recruiters and programs. A kid Saban pursued was going to be viewed higher than some kid from the backwaters of Idaho who got no national attention but might be a 5* talent.
 
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You can go over whatever you want to go over. Have your argument with 247 since that's their page- not mine.

Even as a 4* that refutes BOT's whole narrative. He routinely ignores 3* or less guys who dramatically outperform their rankings. Any time highly rated players are successful he slobbers out some claim that stars mean everything... but when they underperform which a lot of them do... he dismisses it like you are or ignores it completely.

Stars mean "something". They don't mean everything. Based on draft numbers, for every 5* level talent the recruiting sites give 5* they miss at least two guys at 3* or below. The 4* ratings are even muddier. Roughly 20% will be drafted and a disproportionate number will never become contributors even at the college level.

He acts as if I've said they have no value at all or are always inaccurate. I haven't. In fact, I have regularly said that a composite like 247 does is very useful. Coaches who know talent will average out in that list. They'll even do better with their 3* recruits. For instance, McCoy has never played like a 5* player anywhere. However UT's 247 average does seem to put them in the top 20 most talented programs in CFB... and reality on the field has born that out.

I've simply pointed out they are FAR from perfect... and that perfection isn't even the goal. The goal is to make money off fans hungry to know about their team's recruiting. BOT for whatever reason disagrees or simply does not have the ability to understand.

PS- this isn't some new thing for us. Any time the scenario plays out and teams with "stars" do well... he calls me out. Again, as if I don't recognize somehow that those teams are talented and that the recruiting sites recognized it. The problem is that they don't find ALL players of equal caliber and they routinely overrate players. He also seems to think those "evaluators" look across the country and independently evaluate every good/great player. They don't. They depend HEAVILY on following certain recruiters and programs. A kid Saban pursued was going to be viewed higher than some kid from the backwaters of Idaho who got no national attention but might be a 5* talent.
Oh I know all of this. I've seen the arguments, disagreed with both of you, and put BOT on the ignore list for other reasons.

I just find it humorous that you call someone a blind butthead for "not knowing what they're talking about" (specifically in regards to the number of 5-star receivers on the roster), only to be the one in the wrong on that exact point.
 
Money is infinite for every other team besides us. Folks here act like we are the A's from Moneyball trying to piece together a winning roster with peanuts.View attachment 713216

Not sure why you feel that way but prob bc our money was invested keeping everyone we wanted on the current roster. Besides rumors surrounding AC, Boo, MM, & a dash of Nico, you don’t hear about those things. And that’s a good thing.
 
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You can go over whatever you want to go over. Have your argument with 247 since that's their page- not mine.

Even as a 4* that refutes BOT's whole narrative. He routinely ignores 3* or less guys who dramatically outperform their rankings. Any time highly rated players are successful he slobbers out some claim that stars mean everything... but when they underperform which a lot of them do... he dismisses it like you are or ignores it completely.

Stars mean "something". They don't mean everything. Based on draft numbers, for every 5* level talent the recruiting sites give 5* they miss at least two guys at 3* or below. The 4* ratings are even muddier. Roughly 20% will be drafted and a disproportionate number will never become contributors even at the college level.

He acts as if I've said they have no value at all or are always inaccurate. I haven't. In fact, I have regularly said that a composite like 247 does is very useful. Coaches who know talent will average out in that list. They'll even do better with their 3* recruits. For instance, McCoy has never played like a 5* player anywhere. However UT's 247 average does seem to put them in the top 20 most talented programs in CFB... and reality on the field has born that out.

I've simply pointed out they are FAR from perfect... and that perfection isn't even the goal. The goal is to make money off fans hungry to know about their team's recruiting. BOT for whatever reason disagrees or simply does not have the ability to understand.

PS- this isn't some new thing for us. Any time the scenario plays out and teams with "stars" do well... he calls me out. Again, as if I don't recognize somehow that those teams are talented and that the recruiting sites recognized it. The problem is that they don't find ALL players of equal caliber and they routinely overrate players. He also seems to think those "evaluators" look across the country and independently evaluate every good/great player. They don't. They depend HEAVILY on following certain recruiters and programs. A kid Saban pursued was going to be viewed higher than some kid from the backwaters of Idaho who got no national attention but might be a 5* talent.
Stars matter in the aggregate when looking at which teams likely have the most talent. Doesn’t mean that the team with more stars is always a better team for a number of reasons. Stars also don’t really matter when looking at individual players again for lots of reasons.

Also, this argument is pretty stale. I can’t believe I wasted everyone’s time typing this out.
 
Anyone know if we're looking at this guy???5053d55cfd049618c2b9568c193fb04b-3923762774.gif
He's not listed in On3's databases, so he's flying under the radar but going to blow up soon. He's out of Australia and I'm pretty sure Jackson Ross probably knows him. We should be able to get him cheap and he would definitely be our best red zone threat on day #1. I know it's somewhat "thinking outside of the box" but we need dudes that can catch a ball. If we get him on campus, he's ours.... IMO.

Call him, Heup!
 
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Not sure why you feel that way but prob bc our money was invested keeping everyone we wanted on the current roster. Besides rumors surrounding AC, Boo, MM, & a dash of Nico, you don’t hear about those things. And that’s a good thing.
I should have used blue text because I was being sarcastic. Sorry
 
Bru at TE just makes a lot of sense to me. He’s already 229 and 6 ft 3.

I think he could play a Princeton Fant type role and honestly it would be his best chance at the nfl. I don’t think he’s running faster than a 4.7. Hes quick enough to get by linebackers though and can drag a safety a few years across the middle on short passes. And we know he’s a plus blocker.

Curious if any or the insiders know has this ever even been talked about by the staff or him? Or is he dead set at wanting to be a WR? Think it became pretty apparent this year the separation isn’t there on the outside consistently enough for him.
I'm not one to call for position changes usually but l like the idea of giving him some running back reps.
 
Can we fast forward to Saturday so we can see which players from the losing teams the next two day decide to enter the portal?
 

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