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Can someone give me a TLDR of wtf happened in the Gabriel Osenda thread that made KingVFL decide to take a break from here? I don't really want to try and dive through all the comments in there...seems like a hazardous waste zone lol
 
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AngryButchJones said:
Can someone give me a TLDR of wtf happened in the Gabriel Osenda thread that made KingVFL decide to take a break from here? I don't really want to try and dive through all the comments in there...seems like a hazardous waste zone lol
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I believe it had something to with Elerbe. He’s been pretty vocal about his dislike of him and there was a spat about him saying he only states what’s he has heard and not his opinion. Other people brought screen shots of him voicing his opinion about Elerbe as a gotya moment. Unsure of there was more to it but that’s what I got when I skimmed the thread
 
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AngryButchJones said:
Can someone give me a TLDR of wtf happened in the Gabriel Osenda thread that made KingVFL decide to take a break from here? I don't really want to try and dive through all the comments in there...seems like a hazardous waste zone lol
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A poster took issue with King being negative about Elerbee and wouldn't let it go...was a bit too stubborn. To be fair, it doesn’t help for King to keep voicing any complaints about Elerbee knowing he's not going anywhere, so I get why butchna took issue...but it went on a bit too long.
 
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AngryButchJones said:
Can someone give me a TLDR of wtf happened in the Gabriel Osenda thread that made KingVFL decide to take a break from here? I don't really want to try and dive through all the comments in there...seems like a hazardous waste zone lol
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@butchna had to get the last word in and wouldn’t leave well enough alone.
 
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AngryButchJones said:
Can someone give me a TLDR of wtf happened in the Gabriel Osenda thread that made KingVFL decide to take a break from here? I don't really want to try and dive through all the comments in there...seems like a hazardous waste zone lol
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He made some statements about Elarbee that were contradicted by what the recruit in question said. There were also some apparent internal contradictions. No one attacked him. When asked about it and presented with the apparent contradictions, he alluded to taking a break.
 
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Lloyd_Christmas said:
A poster took issue with King being negative about Elerbee and wouldn't let it go...was a bit too stubborn. To be fair, it doesn’t help for King to keep voicing any complaints about Elerbee knowing he's not going anywhere, so I get why butchna took issue...but it went on a bit too long.
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"To be fair, it doesn't help for King to keep voicing any complaints about Elerbee (Elarbee) knowing he's not going anywhere."

I find it interesting how you framed your response.......

You seem to be saying that King, and others who have critical or negative opinions/facts about the football program should just not express those opinions/facts (at least in this specific area, because, well Elarbee (Heupel's guy) isn't going anywhere. So then we should not post anything critical or negative that cuts against the status quo???

In my own experience, negative posts about the current state of TN Football (and pretty much all things related to UT sports) are met with much more criticism and ferocity than positive posts, and this board has been that way for years. When reading through the various threads, I read more positive posts than negative - but that is just my experience.

This is a board designed for engagement and discussion - I would venture to say that this "chat" board would not have grown to its current size if it was simply an echo chamber. "To each their own" I say.
 
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patrick said:
"To be fair, it doesn't help for King to keep voicing any complaints about Elerbee (Elarbee) knowing he's not going anywhere."

I find it interesting how you framed your response.......

You seem to be saying that King, and others who have critical or negative opinions/facts about the football program should just not express those opinions/facts (at least in this specific area, because, well Elarbee (Heupel's guy) isn't going anywhere. So then we should not post anything critical or negative that cuts against the status quo???

In my own experience, negative posts about the current state of TN Football (and pretty much all things related to UT sports) are met with much more criticism and ferocity than positive posts, and this board has been that way for years. When reading through the various threads, I read more positive posts than negative - but that is just my experience.

This is a board designed for engagement and discussion - I would venture to say that this "chat" board would not have grown to its current size if it was simply an echo chamber. "To each their own" I say.
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Insiders carry a lot more influence than people like you and I do though. Nobody cares what we say, but insiders have at least a little ability to turn the masses against a coach or player. King, for example, has hundreds of people on this message board hanging on his every word. With that I think comes an elevated duty to be responsible with his words, which I'm sure he's well aware of and takes seriously.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Legitimately curious the flow of info on these visits that never happen. Bc seems like we get a few “will visit TN” followed by “I don’t see it”. Am I going crazy?
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Yes you are going crazy, but it has nothing to do with the transfer portal drama. JK.!! But in all seriousness, I don't understand why that always tends to happen but in some cases, not all, I believe it has to do with leverage as far as $/NIL are concerned. There have actually been a couple of occasions within the last couple of weeks where a player in the portal has thrown out our name and we didn't even reach out to them and vice versa. Evidently teams and players view UT as a big money spender and as a result they use us to raise their value. And then on the other hand you have situations like Pregnon who visited here, but we did not agree with his asking price equating to his true value/worth. Almost every situation is different, but it's becoming more and more popular for athletes to use other "Big $ & Big Spending Universities as a leverage tactic to raise or increase their NIL value so they can earn as much money as possible. Tbf, I can't hate on the kids for hustling and trying to get paid because the majority of these athletes will never make it to the NFL. So as a result, they're gonna try to get rich or earn as much $ as possible while they are in college. And tbh, if it was me, especially with how certain positions and skill players are demanding a pretty penny, it makes sense to stay as long as you possibly can in college due to the value of some of these athletes. They potentially can make more in college than they can in the NFL, at least until they establish their name or have a few years under their belt. And who wouldn't want to be a teen/young adult as long as they can where they live for free and have the best time of their lives. Few responsibilities besides their specific sport and get an education/ degree at the same time. Being an adult aint all its cracked up to be so dont grow up until you have to. Makes perfect sense. Sorry about the novel!!
 
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Orange_Crush said:
He made some statements about Elarbee that were contradicted by what the recruit in question said. There were also some apparent internal contradictions. No one attacked him. When asked about it and presented with the apparent contradictions, he alluded to taking a break.
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That’s a very generous summary, considering you were the primary poster attacking King for daring to question Elerbee’s legendary recruiting prowess.

The statements (1) Elerbee is generally a weak recruiter, and (2) Elerbee connected with a specific recruit can both be objectively true. Pointing to an outlier instance to negate a general trend is a midwit take.
 
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Vawlz said:
That’s a very generous summary, considering you were the primary poster attacking King for daring to question Elerbee’s legendary recruiting prowess.

The statements (1) Elerbee is generally a weak recruiter, and (2) Elerbee connected with a specific recruit can both be objectively true. Pointing to an outlier instance to negate a general trend is a midwit take.
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What is a midwit?? Just curious. Is it a term from up north or something? Never heard that. Heard nitwit but not midwit.
 
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Vawlz said:
That’s a very generous summary, considering you were the primary poster attacking King for daring to question Elerbee’s legendary recruiting prowess.

The statements (1) Elerbee is generally a weak recruiter, and (2) Elerbee connected with a specific recruit can both be objectively true. Pointing to an outlier instance to negate a general trend is a midwit take.
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Attacking? Your being dramatic. And it wasn't being overly generous. You are also misrepresenting with your two points.

I told him I appreciate his recruiting info. He claimed that Elarbee gets no credit for the recruitment, yet the recruit gave him lots of credit. I asked about that. He claimed to be just sharing facts with no opinion on that. Then he admitted that he was just passing on other peoples' "sentiments", i.e. opinions.

I in no way attacked him. I was actually respectful and gave him credit/thanks for his recruiting info. The exchange is still there. Anyone can go read it.

Do you know what's NOT still there? The attacks by the angry-people after the fact. If Butch or myself had attacked him, our posts wouldn't still be there to be read. The admins would have cleaned it up with the name calling that swooped in immediately after.
 
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What the hell is wrong with all of these people just wanting to jump on here just to start an argument or bitch about nothing that really matters. Me personally, I get on here to check up on new Vol updates and anything relative to Tennessee athletics. I have a wife!! I deal with enough!! But I swear I really think people get on here just to bitch and whine and complain for no reason whatsoever. I do not understand it to save my life. Maybe they're single. Or maybe they're just miserable individuals who want nothing more than to ruin someone's day no matter what. Believe it or not, there are people who live for this. And they won't be happy until they make you unhappy or pissed off. What a shame. And for all those people who do this crap,🖕!!!!! And go straight to 🔥🔥🔥 !!!
 
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EJVOL4LIFE said:
What the hell is wrong with all of these people just wanting to jump on here just to start an argument or bitch about nothing that really matters. Me personally, I get on here to check up on new Vol updates and anything relative to Tennessee athletics. I have a wife!! I deal with enough!! But I swear I really think people get on here just to bitch and whine and complain for no reason whatsoever. I do not understand it to save my life. Maybe they're single. Or maybe they're just miserable individuals who want nothing more than to ruin someone's day no matter what. Believe it or not, there are people who live for this. And they won't be happy until they make you unhappy or pissed off. What a shame. And for all those people who do this crap,🖕!!!!! And go straight to 🔥🔥🔥 !!!
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Irony is ironic. That's probably the ugliest, most negative, argumentative post I've seen since yesterday.
 
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