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I can find plenty of information. Does that mean 65-85 year old without access and relies nightly news does?I can find plenty of information, just like you said. I think the information is there and people will consume what they agree with. People's minds are made up whether they're paying attention to Mother Jones or Alex Jones.
Still doesn't explain the extraordinary number of votes in Fulton. No other county approached 31% increase with MIB
Again, those votes were split in nearly same proportions in 2020 as they were in 2016. Trump actually outperformed in Fulton/Dekalb compared to the rest of the state. If Trump did not underperform in R led counties (compared to 16) in PA, NV, AZ, GA, MI, and WI, he's the POTUS right now....
Those factors plus Kamala/Warnock being on the ballot (as compared to HRC) in majority AA counties absolutely could explain increased turnout.
The only facts you've established are that you think the media distorted perception to affect the election; the real truth is out there and you found it readily accessible; you think the 65-85 demographic can't find the information; and you think the fact that the 65-85 demographic can't find that info stole the election.You haven’t acknowledged MSM suppressing information to viewers on Biden prior to the election. You keep dancing that anyone can find information.
That’s your problem CV. You make assumptions and run with them rather than discussing. I asked a question and you didn’t answer. I stated nothing.Are you saying that people can't find media that suits their opinion?
And when you say MSM, I assume you are only talking about liberal media. Do you think conservative media has no influence on people?
Certainly interesting. So the same thing you’re highlighting in GA happened in the other swing states as well? Is that an assumption or have you looked up the counties and confirmed it? No need to post links. If you say you did it, I believe you. I’m just curious.Again, those votes were split in nearly same proportions in 2020 as they were in 2016. Trump actually outperformed in Fulton/Dekalb compared to the rest of the state. If Trump did not underperform in R led counties (compared to 16) in PA, NV, AZ, GA, MI, and WI, he's the POTUS right now....
Those factors plus Kamala/Warnock being on the ballot (as compared to HRC) in majority AA counties absolutely could explain increased turnout.
Didn't you assume I said the msm doesn't affect opinion? Is that your problem? The "msm" sways the opinion of its viewers just like conservative media sways the opinion of its viewers.That’s your problem CV. You make assumptions and run with them rather than discussing. I asked a question and you didn’t answer. I stated nothing.
No, I asked. You did answer my question in your second sentence. I agree that both influence. Some people do watch whatever fits their beliefs while others watch whatever they believe to be impartial and could be influenced by that “impartial” media outlet. The problem is every source has some bias in it, to varying degrees of course. That’s why I always encourage people to go find the direct source if at all possible. Find the video, transcript or whatever and watch or read for yourself. Don’t rely on CNN, Fox News or whoever to do it for you as it will always come with some kind of narrative. These days you can almost always find the direct material. Almost.Didn't you assume I said the msm doesn't affect opinion? Is that your problem? The msm sways the opinion of its viewers just like conservative media sways the opinion of its viewers.
No, I asked. You did answer my question in your second sentence. I agree that both influence. Some people do watch whatever fits their beliefs while others watch whatever they believe to be impartial and could be influenced by that “impartial” media outlet. The problem is every source has some bias in it, to varying degrees of course. That’s why I always encourage people to go find the direct source if at all possible. Find the video, transcript or whatever and watch or read for yourself. Don’t rely on CNN, Fox News or whoever to do it for you as it will always come with some kind of narrative. These days you can almost always find the direct material. Almost.
So the MSM and social media ran in full transparency the Biden laptop and candidates connection to the information. That’s the stance you’re taking? I gave a demographic as an example who doesn’t scour for news but takes the news presented.The only facts you've established are that you think the media distorted perception to affect the election; the real truth is out there and you found it readily accessible; you think the 65-85 demographic can't find the information; and you think the fact that the 65-85 demographic can't find that info stole the election.
I never said that. How did Trump fare with the 65-85 demographic?So the MSM and social media ran in full transparency the Biden laptop and candidates connection to the information. That’s the stance you’re taking? I gave a demographic as an example who doesn’t scour for news but takes the news presented.
Sure. That’s certainly possible. I do think media influence is also possible. I’m sure you read the same Time article I did that reviewed the coordination of multiple media outlets and others to take Trump down. Was that coordinated effort alone responsible? Likely not. I’m guessing it was a combo of things from media influence, Trump never shutting his mouth, changes in election rules where Dems outmaneuvered Reps, COVID response and who knows what else.Do you think that there is a possibility Trump lost not because of media interference, but because he was so divisive?
“You”?Both absolutely true.
Your problem is Repubs have yet to prove a single case of systematic fraud. Nothing, zip, zero, despite the time and money spent on the search and the totally BS "news reports" that never seem to really have any proof.
It's been three freaking years and you got nothing.