Potential BCS antitrust case (merged)

#76
#76
BigOrangeArsenal said:
More Bowls = More money! I think they should somehow keep the bowls while incorporating a 8-team playoff. I also think they are probably going to have to keep some form of a BCS/opinion-based poll in order to distinguish the top 8 seeds in the playoff.
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Easy, every game in the playoff can be a BCS bowl game. Or at least the first games on each bracket.

This way each team is playing for $$$, the bowl title, and the next round of the playoffs.

If thats not enough teams, you could always have a separate BCS system for the non elite schools. I'd still watch those games.
 
#78
#78
Vol_4_Life said:
Yeah, there's nothing more important for them to focus on, anyway.
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So we should just let the BCS violate the law of the land?

Turn a blind eye because they make money for the chosen schools?

Seems kinda like the NCAA ignoring Auburns cheating because they were the NCAA cash cow last season.


There are plenty of investigators within the multi-agency DOJ to handle this investigation.

If it was Tennessee that was getting overlooked, you guys would be cryin like babies over injustice.

See any multiple Tressel threads in this forum
 
#79
#79
Velo Vol said:
What other sport runs a playoff that way? In the NFL we've had wild card teams in the Super Bowl.
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No other sport is run that way which is why no other sport has the level of importance every week. The Colts won 14 straight a few years back, then basically threw in the towel after that.

It's been stated before, but there's a big enough sample size of games to pretty well rule out all but a handful of teams. The plus 1 would work nearly every time.
 
#80
#80
I mentioned this in another thread a couple of months ago but here is how I think a 16 team playoffs could work and still maintain all of the bowl games...


1.) Mandate that all 11 Div-1 FBS conferences have a conference championship game.

2.) The 11 conference winners get an automatic bid to the tournament.

3.) The remaining 5 spots will be filled with "at large" teams based on ranking.

4.) The 16 playoff teams will be seeded according to rank and the top 8 will play the bottom 8 in the first round (top 8 will have home field advantage).

5.) Round 2 will consist of 8 remaining teams. This round will consist of 4 bowl games (3 mid-major and 1 major bcs).

6.) Round 3 will consist of the 4 remaining teams and they will play in 2 of the remaining major bcs bowls

7.) Round 4 would be the nat'l championship and would play in the remaining major bcs bowl.


* The BCS bowls would rotate each year as far as what round of the playoffs they would host. Which ever bcs bowl hosts the nat'l championship would rotate to host round 2 of the playoffs for the next year and so on and so forth. The 3 mid-major bowls would host round 2 every year.

* The mid-major bowls would most likely be the Cotton, the Chick-Fil-A, and the Outback bowls unless another bowl can out-bid them.

* All other bowls can continue as usual, hosting teams that do not make the tournament.



Can someone please tell me how this would NOT make money and still keep all parties happy? You get the best teams competing in the tournament, plus the opportunity for "Cinderella" teams to emerge. The existing bowls get to continue as always, plus now that the major bowls are involved in a playoffs, the appeal is much greater imo.
 
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Brave Volunteer said:
I mentioned this in another thread a couple of months ago but here is how I think a 16 team playoffs could work and still maintain all of the bowl games...


1.) Mandate that all 11 Div-1 FBS conferences have a conference championship game.

2.) The 11 conference winners get an automatic bid to the tournament.

3.) The remaining 5 spots will be filled with "at large" teams based on ranking.

4.) The 16 playoff teams will be seeded according to rank and the top 8 will play the bottom 8 in the first round (top 8 will have home field advantage).

5.) Round 2 will consist of 8 remaining teams. This round will consist of 4 bowl games (3 mid-major and 1 major bcs).

6.) Round 3 will consist of the 4 remaining teams and they will play in 2 of the remaining major bcs bowls

7.) Round 4 would be the nat'l championship and would play in the remaining major bcs bowl.


* The BCS bowls would rotate each year as far as what round of the playoffs they would host. Which ever bcs bowl hosts the nat'l championship would rotate to host round 2 of the playoffs for the next year and so on and so forth. The 3 mid-major bowls would host round 2 every year.

* The mid-major bowls would most likely be the Cotton, the Chick-Fil-A, and the Outback bowls unless another bowl can out-bid them.

* All other bowls can continue as usual, hosting teams that do not make the tournament.



Can someone please tell me how this would NOT make money and still keep all parties happy? You get the best teams competing in the tournament, plus the opportunity for "Cinderella" teams to emerge. The existing bowls get to continue as always, plus now that the major bowls are involved in a playoffs, the appeal is much greater imo.
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16 is too big, imo. Then you would have to think about shortening the regular season.
 
#83
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Brave Volunteer said:
It's worked at the FCS level for a long time. Why couldn't it work at the FBS level?
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But you're talking about 12 reg season games + conf championship + 4 playoff games for the winner

17 games is a bit much, not that I wouldn't enjoy watching the vols for 13-17 weeks.

Aren't FCS schedules shorter by a couple games or so? If you shorten the regular season, the teams that aren't top 25 caliber year in and year out are not going to like it.
 
#84
#84
Playoff won't happen. If the government shuts down the BCS, it would just go back to the old bowl system of the pre-BCS era.
 
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SGMVols said:
Playoff won't happen. If the government shuts down the BCS, it would just go back to the old bowl system of the pre-BCS era.
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Probably....but then you'd have 6 or 7 teams claiming NC's every year.IE bammer and n freakin dame.
 
#86
#86
They could do the playoff and the teams that don't make it can go to a bowl. Its a win win.
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:chair:These Freakin Bastard of Bureaucrates!:chair::chair: want to change something in the US and drugs are a problem, disease, hungy and homeless in this country, yeah thats still a problem, and last, but most certainly not least that little trillion dollar debt we owe china! Lets change that no college football!
 
#88
#88
So our intrepid government, is finally going to solve this NCAA/BCS, no playoff, mystery. Color me just a wee bit skeptical.

What next? Explaining how the Oil industry can continue to extort America, at nearly 4 bucks a gallon.

Come on Uncle Sam, show us how to regulate pure, avarice greed? Just once.
 
#90
#90
As per usual, this thread became a HURR DURR WHY IZ BIG GUMMIT TRYING TO RUIN OUR FOOTBALL HERP A DERP




The justice department is getting involved because they believe that the BCS may be breaking a law. They'll investigate, and then settle the matter.
 
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#91
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Government investigations generally end up just finding out how much revenue they are missing out on and how to adjust the tax codes to ensure they get a bigger cut.
 
#93
#93
Thank God the federal government is getting involved! They fix everything that the private sector screws up with their ineffective bureacracy and stalemated two party system! Hallelulah!
 
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jasonvol18 said:
They could do the playoff and the teams that don't make it can go to a bowl. Its a win win.
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There is little to no support among university presidents for a playoff system. Until something or someone changes their minds, you will not see a playoff.
 
#95
#95
The BCS is a joke anyways. Yes, it gives us a 1 vs. 2 match-up based on the ranking system. The other 4 games don't mean squat in the whole scheme of things.

I went to the Orange Bowl this past year and the stadium was empty. Granted, the South Florida market stinks as far as fan attendance goes but there are only a handful of bowl games that sell out. The national title game, Rose Bowl, and last year's Music City Bowl are the only one's I can think of where the stadiums were full.

Scrub the BCS as it is now and make it a 4 team playoff system. Sure, travel for the teams that keep winning gets expensive but it's no different that college basketball where in 4 consecutive weekends you have the conference tournament, 1st-2nd rounds, Sweet 16- Elite 8, and then the Final 4. UK hoops fans didn't seem to mind.
 
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#97
Its naive to think that the DOJ is going to make the NCAA institute a play off system. Thats absolutely not what the DOJ will do. What will happen is that they either change the way the BCS operates, or dissolves the BCS altogether. The DOJ has no say in what happens after that, unless the NCAA's solution is to institute something else illegal through anti-trust laws.

Whomever stated that will likely happen would be to go back to the old Bowl system, is probably correct.

I see it going down two ways, A) The NCAA disolves the BCS before it ever goes to court, and insitutes a play off, or B) They go to court, and the courts state the BCS is in violation of Anti-trust laws, and then they revert back to the old bowl system until something else is figured out.

But you have to remember that the BCS is in it for the money. The BCS schools are in it for the money. Going to court and basically getting told what you're doing is illegal is horrible for business. It opens them up to law suits, and the axe to their money mountain. What the BCS will most likely want to do, is somehow find a medium ground, be it a play off, or what ever, but a middle ground where they're not violating anti-trust laws, so they can still be a major part, or at least a player in the future landscaping of the football post season. They know they're in violation, they basically say 6 conferences are inherently better than the remaining conferences, with the auto bid. It creates an unfair advantage for the other conferences. The actuality of the situation is that its surprising the DOJ hasn't been involved sooner, since CFB is such a highly publicized venue.
 
#98
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UNAVol89 said:
As per usual, this thread became a HURR DURR WHY IZ BIG GUMMIT TRYING TO RUIN OUR FOOTBALL HERP A DERP




The justice department is getting involved because they believe that the BCS may be breaking a law. They'll investigate, and then settle the matter.
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I don't really see what's so hard to understand about this...
 
#99
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gnm53108 said:
You'd think so.
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The effect of a playoff system would increase overall revenues, including revenues to colleges across the country and diversify that revenue, to the benefit of educational institutions across the national landscape. So, the real value in dollars and cents to universities will substantially exceed the relatively modest cost of the prosecutorial effort.
 
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