Premiere League & World Soccer Thread

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The sanctions seemed to have kicked in pretty quickly. Not sure how I feel about banning them from selling tickets to non season ticket holders. Presumably that means that away fans won’t be allowed at Stamford Bridge, which will actually probably help Chelsea.
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#2,785
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bleedorange0037 said:
The sanctions seemed to have kicked in pretty quickly. Not sure how I feel about banning them from selling tickets to non season ticket holders. Presumably that means that away fans won’t be allowed at Stamford Bridge, which will actually probably help Chelsea.
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Yeah, the way I read it, away fans that have already bought tickets as of today will be able to attend, but no more sales moving forward. That one doesn't make sense to me.
 
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05_never_again said:
As long as their bad actions don't become big enough of a news story, it is OK. When it becomes a big enough story, then it becomes an opportunity to virtue signal.
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Just funny that a literal prince of a country that has been committing war crimes causing hundreds of thousands of deaths so far, doesn’t get blocked when they bought Newcastle, but a guy that had ties to Putin but may or may not be supporting the war in Ukraine does get sanctioned. All they care about is appeasing who they need to and like you said virtue signaling.

Not really surprised by the sanctioning, we all knew it was coming eventually. I am however surprised about some of the stuff that came with it. If you’re going to take away monetary sale of a club, then that obviously makes sense, but the clubs board, directors, whoever, should get to decide who to sell it to for the clubs best interest, with the governments final approval of course. Instead, the way it’s written now is the government just gets to take over all parts of the sale and will instead let it go to the highest bidder or whoever lines the pockets of the government the most.
 
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NorCalVol67 said:
Yeah, the way I read it, away fans that have already bought tickets as of today will be able to attend, but no more sales moving forward. That one doesn't make sense to me.
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With the way ticket sales work where away tickets go on sale about a month prior to the match, that means maybe a couple more games at most. Also, I wonder what happens if/when they reach the semi-final of the FA Cup. No idea whether the FA sells those or the individual clubs. Would certainly be bizarre if only one side of Wembley had fans.
 
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Nash_Vol97 said:
Just funny that a literal prince of a country that has been committing war crimes causing hundreds of thousands of deaths so far, doesn’t get blocked when they bought Newcastle, but a guy that had ties to Putin but may or may not be supporting the war in Ukraine does get sanctioned. All they care about is appeasing who they need to and like you said virtue signaling.

Not really surprised by the sanctioning, we all knew it was coming eventually. I am however surprised about some of the stuff that came with it. If you’re going to take away monetary sale of a club, then that obviously makes sense, but the clubs board, directors, whoever, should get to decide who to sell it to for the clubs best interest, with the governments final approval of course. Instead, the way it’s written now is the government just gets to take over all parts of the sale and will instead let it go to the highest bidder or whoever lines the pockets of the government the most.
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Far be it for me to defend the Newcastle ownership, but on paper they aren’t technically owned by MBS. Obviously everyone knows that the PIF is a total sham, but from a strictly legal perspective there is a degree of separation. That’s not the case at Chelsea.
 
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#2,789
Nash_Vol97 said:
Just funny that a literal prince of a country that has been committing war crimes causing hundreds of thousands of deaths so far, doesn’t get blocked when they bought Newcastle, but a guy that had ties to Putin but may or may not be supporting the war in Ukraine does get sanctioned. All they care about is appeasing who they need to and like you said virtue signaling.

Not really surprised by the sanctioning, we all knew it was coming eventually. I am however surprised about some of the stuff that came with it. If you’re going to take away monetary sale of a club, then that obviously makes sense, but the clubs board, directors, whoever, should get to decide who to sell it to for the clubs best interest, with the governments final approval of course. Instead, the way it’s written now is the government just gets to take over all parts of the sale and will instead let it go to the highest bidder or whoever lines the pockets of the government the most.
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That's because his crimes haven't gotten as much pub as Putin's. Westerners care about the war in Ukraine because it is impacting people who look and live like us. It does not feel as "foreign" as a war happening in somewhere like Yemen. It isn't as relatable, so it doesn't generate as much attention or outrage. Politically incorrect, but it is what it is.
 
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05_never_again said:
That's because his crimes haven't gotten as much pub as Putin's. Westerners care about the war in Ukraine because it is impacting people who look and live like us. It does not feel as "foreign" as a war happening in somewhere like Yemen. It isn't as relatable, so it doesn't generate as much attention or outrage. Politically incorrect, but it is what it is.
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For sure. I don’t disagree about the publicity factor.
 
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05_never_again said:
That's because his crimes haven't gotten as much pub as Putin's. Westerners care about the war in Ukraine because it is impacting people who look and live like us. It does not feel as "foreign" as a war happening in somewhere like Yemen. It isn't as relatable, so it doesn't generate as much attention or outrage. Politically incorrect, but it is what it is.
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Unfortunately, this is pretty much true. However, the war in Ukraine is having a more direct effect on Western Europe because of the growing refugee crisis. I don’t know how much positive material effect the UK government sanctioning Abramovic will have, but they could certainly can and should be trying to be more welcoming of people who have displaced by the war. Personally I’d rather see them trying to help women and children who have lost their homes than stopping a football club from selling tickets and merch.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Far be it for me to defend the Newcastle ownership, but on paper they aren’t technically owned by MBS. Obviously everyone knows that the PIF is a total sham, but from a strictly legal perspective there is a degree of separation. That’s not the case at Chelsea.
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Window dressing. The Saudi Prince is chairman of the body of the PIF, which owns 80% of the club. The same Saudi Prince who allegedly had a journalist murdered. The degree of separation was just the scape goat to make the UK feel better.
 
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#2,795
Never much liked the zig zag and checkered design of this years jersey, but without the giant 3 on the front I actually don’t mind them. Like them better blank.

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#2,796
bleedorange0037 said:
Unfortunately, this is pretty much true. However, the war in Ukraine is having a more direct effect on Western Europe because of the growing refugee crisis. I don’t know how much positive material effect the UK government sanctioning Abramovic will have, but they could certainly can and should be trying to be more welcoming of people who have displaced by the war. Personally I’d rather see them trying to help women and children who have lost their homes than stopping a football club from selling tickets and merch.
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Stopping a football club from selling tix and merch is a costless, sacrifice-less way to show that you "care" about the situation. Bringing in refugees, letting them stay with you, providing aid, etc. comes with a cost/sacrifice and virtue signaling, by definition, is putting on a display that you care about something without actually doing anything, or without doing anything that inconveniences/costs you.

It is just like the NBA moving an All-Star Game out of Charlotte to make a display about a transgender bathroom bill, but having a deafening silence about China. It also helps that their audience cares way more about the bathroom bill than Uighurs in China anyway.
 
#2,799
#2,799
Damn, it almost looks warm in Brentford, unlike Knoxville. Btw, my Foxes are busting @mad4vols boys, tomorrow. Well, probably not
 
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