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Zero CB’s in the starting 11, only one on the bench. Several goals called back for offside, hit the woodwork twice, nearly 2/3’s possession, three times the amount of chances at goal as your opponent and you still find a way to lose at home.

I knew that Chelsea game would cost us like 15 points. We’re about to drop another 3 points next weekend at the Ethiad when we try and contain Haaland and Co. with the likes of Emerson Royal and Ben Davies.
 
I do hate when a whole team runs at the ref to complain but idk about this idea. Giving refs, who can barely get red card/yellow cards right, the ability to send a player off for 10 minutes? No bueno. Similar to refs being able to give a yellow card to a player that motions for a card as he’s complaining that we’ve seen this year, but even something as cut and dry as that has been inconsistent. I’d bet this proposed rule would be just as inconsistently called.

Edit: apparently can also happen for other offenses too like a tactical offense of fouling a guy who is about to break on a counter for instance.

 
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I do hate when a whole team runs at the ref to complain but idk about this idea. Giving refs, who can barely get red card/yellow cards right, the ability to send a player off for 10 minutes? No bueno. Similar to refs being able to give a yellow card to a player that motions for a card as he’s complaining that we’ve seen this year, but even something as cut and dry as that has been inconsistent. I’d bet this proposed rule would be just as inconsistently called.


I’m offended by the photo.
 
I do hate when a whole team runs at the ref to complain but idk about this idea. Giving refs, who can barely get red card/yellow cards right, the ability to send a player off for 10 minutes? No bueno. Similar to refs being able to give a yellow card to a player that motions for a card as he’s complaining that we’ve seen this year, but even something as cut and dry as that has been inconsistent. I’d bet this proposed rule would be just as inconsistently called.

Edit: apparently can also happen for other offenses too like a tactical offense of fouling a guy who is about to break on a counter for instance.


In American high school soccer, the player must leave the field for 10 minutes on a yellow card. The coach however can sub for them and bring them back on after the 10 minutes. It's considered a cooldown and prevents players from totally losing their cool. I kind of like it.

In this case, the team could be severely handcuffed during a period of play where they are down a man. It would also be subjectively given. Just create another card like a blue card. Second blue is a yellow. Guys might whine once but then catch themselves before the second instance. Unless your Sergino Dest, then you just get three blue cards and get sent off in 2 minutes.
 
In American high school soccer, the player must leave the field for 10 minutes on a yellow card. The coach however can sub for them and bring them back on after the 10 minutes. It's considered a cooldown and prevents players from totally losing their cool. I kind of like it.

In this case, the team could be severely handcuffed during a period of play where they are down a man. It would also be subjectively given. Just create another card like a blue card. Second blue is a yellow. Guys might whine once but then catch themselves before the second instance. Unless your Sergino Dest, then you just get three blue cards and get sent off in 2 minutes.
I laughed out loud at the Dest comment.
 
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I do hate when a whole team runs at the ref to complain but idk about this idea. Giving refs, who can barely get red card/yellow cards right, the ability to send a player off for 10 minutes? No bueno. Similar to refs being able to give a yellow card to a player that motions for a card as he’s complaining that we’ve seen this year, but even something as cut and dry as that has been inconsistent. I’d bet this proposed rule would be just as inconsistently called.

Edit: apparently can also happen for other offenses too like a tactical offense of fouling a guy who is about to break on a counter for instance.


I can’t wait to watch teams go all Red Bull when on the power play.
 
In American high school soccer, the player must leave the field for 10 minutes on a yellow card. The coach however can sub for them and bring them back on after the 10 minutes. It's considered a cooldown and prevents players from totally losing their cool. I kind of like it.

In this case, the team could be severely handcuffed during a period of play where they are down a man. It would also be subjectively given. Just create another card like a blue card. Second blue is a yellow. Guys might whine once but then catch themselves before the second instance. Unless your Sergino Dest, then you just get three blue cards and get sent off in 2 minutes.
If it was used like the your first paragraph, I maybe could get behind it. I think making the team down a man for 10 minutes probably has the fastest correction of the issue at hand, but also will cause the most dissent. I played rugby in college, and rugby already has the sin bin. It was tough to get sent off and watch the other team gain momentum for 10 minutes. Certainly made me think twice on some things after being sent to the bin a couple times. So yeah, it might help.. but I don’t trust referees to make the right choices utilizing it.

Love the way you snuck in Dest there at the end too haha.
 
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On a serious note, I love hockey for the same reason I love soccer. They don't allow cherry picking with offside rules. Scoring happens through effort and luck more than one would think, and you see plays at times that make you leave your seat. With that said, I love the power play in hockey. It's two minutes for a minor and 4 minutes for a major. That represents 3% of the game for a minor. Make someone sit and allow the team to play shorthanded for 3 minutes in soccer. Long enough to create some chaos and prevent dumb yellows, and short enough to not totally screw a game. Major penalties (reds) should be treated like hockey also. A 6 minute shorthanded situation and that player is ejected. I wish MLS would do this and see how it goes.
 
Most interesting CL game today: Man United vs Galatasaray at 11:45 central time.

If United lose, then they are out. That would put them 4 points behind Galatasaray with only one game left. Even with a win today, they aren’t guaranteed in. A win would put them at 6 points, and both Galatasaray and FC Copenhagen have 4 points currently which I would assume stays that way, assuming United win, and with Copenhagen playing Bayern today. United then plays Bayern next week while one of the other teams would have a chance to get to 7 points as long as they don’t draw. Question will be if Bayern play a good mix of backups today and next game though as they have already qualified as the top seed coming out of the group.

Arsenal wins or ties today and PSV loses then Arsenal will get the top spot in their group. City already has the top spot in their group.

Another interesting situation to watch the last round of games in December is the group of the death. Newcastle tied for 3rd in that group and could end up anywhere from 2nd to 4th after they play their next game. That’ll be a great day to watch when they play Milan who they are tied with at 5 points, and Dortmund (10 points) and PSG (7 points) play. Dortmund is top of the group in points by 3 with a 2 goal differential lead. They could technically lose and still get top seed as long as they don’t lose by 2+. 2nd spot is still anyone’s to take. Newcastle has some work to do.
 
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United draws after being up 3-1. Wish they would blow games like this in the PL but somehow even in terrible form they keep pulling out points after playing bad.

If Copenhagen beats Bayern this afternoon then that would make it very likely that United won’t advance. Copenhagen would be 3 points ahead and with at least a 2 goal differential lead over United. Galatasaray could still jump them with a win against Copenhagen next game though.
 
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I’m surprised that Arsenal is playing their strongest line up.
Still haven’t qualified for the knockout rounds yet. A win today would seal at least advancement though. A win and a PSV loss would seal 1st out of the group.. which is huge. Don’t want to be drawn to play a group winner next round.
 
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