Preseason top 25?

#51
#51
I lived long enough already to see my Vols dismantle a good FSU team and win a national title....everything else from now on is just gravy.....like last year some gravy has lumps :dunno: True if we never saw valleys the mountain tops would get boring.
 
#52
#52
If that's good enough for you, fine.

I strongly feel it falls far short!

Understood...everyone has different standards.
 
#53
#53
(RealVol @ Apr 10 said:
If that's good enough for you, fine.

I strongly feel it falls far short!

Understood...everyone has different standards.
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Really? I would not have guessed that you felt that way at all :crazy:
 
#54
#54
(VolBeef88 @ Apr 10 said:
Well imagine that! A gator boy wouldn't give us a vote. Well you have a couple of negative posters on here that will agree with you. I think last year was an aboration and you will get you lizard butt handed to you this year. If anyone thinks last year is the norm for this team, your in for a big surprise.
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First, your quote from me from before was about how impressed I was with your comeback win over LSU, but that is no retort to the observation that, at the END of the year, UT sucked moose p*nis, pure and simple.

Second, your reply that the Gators will have their collective "lizard butt handed to" them may well be true. Yet, it hardly seems to answer the question of whether UT should be ranked.

Third, aberration is spelled, well, aberration. I think you might have meant adoration, as in adoration for Noah and his powerful shot blocking a week ago today.

Fourth, the correct form of "you are" in this context would be "you're," not "your."

Fifth, you did not at any place articulate a single reason to rank UT. Indeed, if by your logic Florida is awful, I assume then that you believe that a win over them should not result in ranking UT?

I thought not.


:wavey:
 
#56
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(lawgator1 @ Apr 10 said:
First, your quote from me from before was about how impressed I was with your comeback win over LSU, but that is no retort to the observation that, at the END of the year, UT sucked moose p*nis, pure and simple.

Second, your reply that the Gators will have their collective "lizard butt handed to" them may well be true. Yet, it hardly seems to answer the question of whether UT should be ranked.

Third, aberration is spelled, well, aberration. I think you might have meant adoration, as in adoration for Noah and his powerful shot blocking a week ago today.

Fourth, the correct form of "you are" in this context would be "you're," not "your."

Fifth, you did not at any place articulate a single reason to rank UT. Indeed, if by your logic Florida is awful, I assume then that you believe that a win over them should not result in ranking UT?

I thought not.
:wavey:
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Thanks for the grammar lesson. Sometimes I type fast and don't read it over. With LIO MIA lately it's good to have you.
Now as far as why I think UT should and will be ranked has zero to do with last year, yet what I think they will do this year. That after all is what a preseason ranking is all about. As far as the ugliest player in NCAA tourney history goes? I don't think his win record was very good against UT this year? Or was it?
 
#57
#57
it seems whenever we are supposed to be great preseason, we stumble but whenever we're not in the top 15 we do pretty well. anyone else agree
 
#58
#58
(VolBeef88 @ Apr 10 said:
Now as far as why I think UT should and will be ranked has zero to do with last year, yet what I think they will do this year. That after all is what a preseason ranking is all about.
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Uhhhhh..... Not quite sure how to respond to that. I guess I would just have to say no.
 
#59
#59
I doubt we'll be ranked to begin the year, not coming off a 5-6 season with the personnel loses we had. A lot of questions marks for us.

But if we beat Cal, we could jump as high as 15 in the next poll.
 
#60
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(lawgator1 @ Apr 10 said:
Uhhhhh..... Not quite sure how to respond to that. I guess I would just have to say no.
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lawlizard I have seen many, many pollsters interviewed on ESPN etc about how they vote preseason and that is what they say. The reason they say that they do that is there's always changing personnel. You or I either one has to like it but that is what some of the actual voters say. Not opinion but facts. As a person of law I'm sure you appreciate facts.
 
#61
#61
(VolBeef88 @ Apr 11 said:
lawlizard I have seen many, many pollsters interviewed on ESPN etc about how they vote preseason and that is what they say. The reason they say that they do that is there's always changing personnel. You or I either one has to like it but that is what some of the actual voters say. Not opinion but facts. As a person of law I'm sure you appreciate facts.
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Well, sure its based on what they think the team will do this year but it seems pretty obvious to me that the best way to predict that is based on how you ended last year. Mix in some new folks, sure. And a few graduate or otherwise move on, there's a coaching change, and you make your prediction. But it has to be based first and foremost on what you looked like at year's end.

 
#62
#62
(lawgator1 @ Apr 11 said:
Well, sure its based on what they think the team will do this year but it seems pretty obvious to me that the best way to predict that is based on how you ended last year. Mix in some new folks, sure. And a few graduate or otherwise move on, there's a coaching change, and you make your prediction. But it has to be based first and foremost on what you looked like at year's end.
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Most of what you said I agree with. But surely (put your dislike of UT aside) you as an (hurting my stomach as I type this) intelligent and educated (I guess UF qualifies as a center for higher learning) person can see that last year was a fluke and will not be the norm for UT. As much as UF, bammer and others would love to see us struggle like last year the talent level we have and our coaching staff will keep that from happening. You can mortgage your house that UT will be in a Bowl game later than Dec 31, 2006. And any thinking (I know that is a stretch for you guys) UF fan will not have a W marked by the UT game yet.
 
#63
#63
We have less talent, on paper, than we did last year. Last year, regardless of the reasons, we were a 5-6 team. Therefore, we should not be ranked in the preseason top 25.
 
#64
#64
(therealUT @ Apr 11 said:
We have less talent, on paper, than we did last year. Last year, regardless of the reasons, we were a 5-6 team. Therefore, we should not be ranked in the preseason top 25.
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Your opinion. But I think your dead wrong. I think last year was a fluke and once things got rolling down hill it just kinda snow balled. We have more talent than most schools in the nation and it is not even close. I think we have a very good coaching staff and this team will have a chip on their shoulder. Many of the voters will agree with me and we will be in the top 25 pre-season. We will win a bunch of games this year. Book it.
 
#65
#65
I agree w/you VolBeef88 - this might not be the most talented team we have ever had but they are talented enough to compete in and win everygame on our schedule. not that they will win every game but we are by no means so far down on talent that we won't compete.
 
#66
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(VolBeef88 @ Apr 11 said:
Your opinion. But I think your dead wrong. I think last year was a fluke and once things got rolling down hill it just kinda snow balled. We have more talent than most schools in the nation and it is not even close. I think we have a very good coaching staff and this team will have a chip on their shoulder. Many of the voters will agree with me and we will be in the top 25 pre-season. We will win a bunch of games this year. Book it.
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It is not my opinion, it is fact.

In my opinion, I have stated numerous times on this board that we will be playing in Atlanta this year (SEC CG.)

We probably do have more talent than most schools in the nation, but we have less talent and experience than we did last year, and we went 5-6.

Yes, I believe that 5-6 was a fluke, but the fact is, we went 5-6.
 
#67
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(VOLracerx @ Apr 11 said:
I agree w/you VolBeef88 - this might not be the most talented team we have ever had but they are talented enough to compete in and win everygame on our schedule. not that they will win every game but we are by no means so far down on talent that we won't compete.
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You are exactly right. We have a ton of talent and I think we will win a lot more games than some on here. We had a bad year. Get over it. We have a very tough schedule this year but anyone who puts a L by any game yet is just not thinking. We have the ability to win all. I don't think we will win them all either, but I do expect us to compete in all and win the overwhelming majority.
 
#68
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(therealUT @ Apr 11 said:
It is not my opinion, it is fact.

In my opinion, I have stated numerous times on this board that we will be playing in Atlanta this year (SEC CG.)

We probably do have more talent than most schools in the nation, but we have less talent and experience than we did last year, and we went 5-6.

Yes, I believe that 5-6 was a fluke, but the fact is, we went 5-6.
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It is not a fact that we should not be ranked. That is YOUR opinion. I know the record. DUH!!!
 
#69
#69
(VolBeef88 @ Apr 11 said:
It is not a fact that we should not be ranked. That is YOUR opinion. I know the record. DUH!!!
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Do you actually believe we have more talent and experience on the 2006 roster than we did on the 2005 roster?

Did we go 5-6 in 2005?

Objectively speaking, there is no reason we should be preseason top 25. This is a mind issue not a heart issue.
 
#70
#70
Tennessee=Tradition

Tradition=Preseason ranking 20-25.

I will compare Tennessee football to Kentucky basketball. We all know Kentucky sucks, but Kentucky is a top college basketball program because of their tradition.

Should Notre Dame be a top 3 team? No, but they will be even though their defense would have trouble against a Division III team.
 
#71
#71


Well now this last series of posts I suppose summarizes pretty well the debate: was last season a fluke?

I don't know the answer to that.
 
#72
#72
With Cut back and alot of talent still on board we'll rank in between 17 and 25. Last year will still be in memories of voters but that isn't only factor. We have the talent to be in the top 25 and have made necessary coaching changes. The rest will be decided on the field. And quite honestly, it really doesn't matter if we aren't in top 25 or not at beginning. We go through and win and the rankings take care of themselves. Rankings are opinions and best guesses before the kids actually hit the field.
 
#73
#73
Was last season a fluke?

Last season was a culmination of the mishandling of the program.

Last season was inevitable, so no, last season was not a fluke, and it was a matter of time.
 
#74
#74
(therealUT @ Apr 11 said:
Do you actually believe we have more talent and experience on the 2006 roster than we did on the 2005 roster?

Did we go 5-6 in 2005?

Objectively speaking, there is no reason we should be preseason top 25. This is a mind issue not a heart issue.
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I never said that we have more talent than last year. Yes we did go 5-6. Our record is a fact. But whether we deserve to be ranked is based on what voters think we will do in 2006. Not what we did or did not do in 2005. All you have to do is go to a couple of sites and see that they already have UT pre-season ranked.
The part of my post that said opinion was that you THINK UT does not deserve to be ranked. I said that is your opinion.
 
#75
#75
Yes, but, it would be foolhearty to believe that we will be top 25 this year considering last years season and the lost talent.

That being said, I will admit to being a fool and believing that UT will have a great season. However, I still do not believe we deserve a preseason top 25 ranking.
 
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