President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[volbound1700]

just like they believed they could bring Democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan? how much did the US in afghanistan stop the flow of opium? I remember it increasing while we are there.

There is zero reason to believe we will be any more efficient "nation" building the cartels than we were the Taliban.

Well USAID did recently spent over $90 Million USD to help the growth of that crop.

 

[Sea Ray]

Yes he did at least according to Newsweek. Elon claimed there were 400 million over the age of 100 recieving ss. When 68.5 million is the total receiving benefits

Show us the link

 

[swampfoxfan]

Show us the link

I'm not tech savvy, I don't know how. I know what he said and you probably do as well.its just Maga denial

 

[FortSanders]

Well... the honeymoon is officially over.

I voted for DOGE, but I did not vote for American retreat and the abrogation of our position as the leader of the free world and as the Arsenal of Democracy. I believe in a small government at home and a strong foreign policy abroad to keep the American people safe. Trump, like Biden and Obama, is emboldening our enemies abroad. Our retreat from Ukraine, like our retreat from Afghanistan will strengthen Russia, China and Iran.

Ending a war is not like undertaking a real estate transaction. Wars cannot be tied up in a neat little package, unless you want to lose.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

I voted for DOGE, but I did not vote for American retreat and the abrogation of our position as the leader of the free world and as the Arsenal of Democracy. I believe in a small government at home and a strong foreign policy abroad to keep the American people safe. Trump, like Biden and Obama, is emboldening our enemies abroad. Our retreat from Ukraine, like our retreat from Afghanistan will strengthen Russia, China and Iran.

Ending a war is not like undertaking a real estate transaction. Wars cannot be tied up in a neat little package, unless you want to lose.

What would you like to see be done?

 

[LouderVol]

Well USAID did recently spent over $90 Million USD to help the growth of that crop.

I doubt the CIA losing the cover of USAID is going to stop anything.

 

[LouderVol]

I voted for DOGE, but I did not vote for American retreat and the abrogation of our position as the leader of the free world and as the Arsenal of Democracy. I believe in a small government at home and a strong foreign policy abroad to keep the American people safe. Trump, like Biden and Obama, is emboldening our enemies abroad. Our retreat from Ukraine, like our retreat from Afghanistan will strengthen Russia, China and Iran.

Ending a war is not like undertaking a real estate transaction. Wars cannot be tied up in a neat little package, unless you want to lose.

what happens to our strength if we spend ourselves into bankruptcy staying in Ukraine, Israel, Yemen, and who knows how many other places?

what happens to our strength when we give it all away?

as long as the terms of the peace treaty are somewhat decent, and as long as the peace lasts for at least Trump's whole term, it will be a win for him.

 

[McDad]

Dumb dumb dumb.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

I'm not tech savvy, I don't know how. I know what he said and you probably do as well.its just Maga denial

What's Maga denial? You lie.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Democrats can't win at the ballot box on woke agendas. So they incite violence.

 

[Sea Ray]

I'm not tech savvy, I don't know how. I know what he said and you probably do as well.its just Maga denial

There’s not even 400 million Americans. I’m calling BS on this

 

[LSU-SIU]

I voted for DOGE, but I did not vote for American retreat and the abrogation of our position as the leader of the free world and as the Arsenal of Democracy. I believe in a small government at home and a strong foreign policy abroad to keep the American people safe. Trump, like Biden and Obama, is emboldening our enemies abroad. Our retreat from Ukraine, like our retreat from Afghanistan will strengthen Russia, China and Iran.

Ending a war is not like undertaking a real estate transaction. Wars cannot be tied up in a neat little package, unless you want to lose.

The Ukraine was nothing but a pawn for a game to get people paid in the attempt to overthrow many governments, as Europe is finding out itself as well. Afghanistan was just a ledger for people to get paid, nothing more, nothing less. There will be a price to be paid for all this, most of the people responsible probably won't be the ones to pay.

will strengthen Russia, China and Iran

Absolutely, because your country looks like they are bat **** crazy. Its taken the world quite some time but I think they are catching up fast. I kind of have no real major issues with those countries... maybe on the edges with China an Iran. Not sure what the problem is to be honest.

Ending a war is not like undertaking a real estate transaction. Wars cannot be tied up in a neat little package, unless you want to lose.

Are we at war? They kept telling me in the Ukraine thread that the U.S. wasn't at war. Maybe, just maybe you shouldn't have been at war to start with?

How do you think Afghanistan was going to end? The retreat isn't the problem, the reason why you did all of it start with was the problem.

 

[Volnanza]

Who will be President Trump's pick for U.S. Attorney General? Who should replace Mayorkas at Homeland Security?

Maybe replace/eliminate homeland security.

 

[hndog609]

Yes he did at least according to Newsweek. Elon claimed there were 400 million over the age of 100 recieving ss. When 68.5 million is the total receiving benefits

Something is obviously amiss here as if everybody was collecting ss it still wouldn't be 400m. I did find this:

DOGE: Millions over age 110 getting Social Security checks. 6 things to know about the claim

Elon Musk tweeted that millions over the age of 110 are collecting Social Security payments. Here are the reactions.

www.usatoday.com

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

There’s not even 400 million Americans. I’m calling BS on this

He lies a lot for the democrats position to make Trump/Musk look bad..

 

[FortSanders]

what happens to our strength if we spend ourselves into bankruptcy staying in Ukraine, Israel, Yemen, and who knows how many other places?

what happens to our strength when we give it all away?

as long as the terms of the peace treaty are somewhat decent, and as long as the peace lasts for at least Trump's whole term, it will be a win for him.

We have spent about 8% of our defense budget on Israel and Ukraine combined. We can make that up through savings from DOGE. Supporting Ukraine will not destroy this country. We are the indispensable nation in the world to keep our enemies in check. These enemies are Russia, China, Iran and North Korea. You cannot buy peace in our time by putting off war with a dictator like Putin. This is nothing but appeasement. Neville Chamberlain tried it in 1938. It was a failure. Trump cannot buy peace until his term is over. Nixon tried it with North Vietnam in 1973. Within 2 years, Saigon had fallen. The rest of the world knew Nixon was going to fail. Right now, we have Russia in a corner and China hesitant. Trump now owns the debacle in Ukraine and his foreign policy mistakes.

I will gladly have this debate with anyone.

 

[LSU-SIU]

We have spent about 8% of our defense budget on Israel and Ukraine combined. We can make that up through savings from DOGE. Supporting Ukraine will not destroy this country. We are the indispensable nation in the world to keep our enemies in check. These enemies are Russia, China, Iran and North Korea. You cannot buy peace in our time by putting off war with a dictator like Putin. This is nothing but appeasement. Neville Chamberlain tried it in 1938. It was a failure. Trump cannot buy peace until his term is over. Nixon tried it with North Vietnam in 1973. Within 2 years, Saigon had fallen. The rest of the world knew Nixon was going to fail. Right now, we have Russia in a corner and China hesitant. Trump now owns the debacle in Ukraine and his foreign policy mistakes.

I will gladly have this debate with anyone.

The last enemies they told you were are enemies are ones we're now paying and militarily supporting i.e. ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc. (technically we're paying the Taliban as well or owe... although I don't consider them a terrorist group myself)

Supporting Ukraine will not destroy this country.

The Ukraine was being used as a pawn, nobody cares about them... if so, they wouldn't be in the position they are.

Vietnam was the bad guys, now they're are friend.

Trump now owns the debacle in Ukraine and his foreign policy mistakes.

Actually, the opposite, he wiped his hands clean by dropping the funding, as long as the U.S. doesn't fund it.... success. I seriously doubt anyone is going to fix the Ukraine in our lifetime, this is the work of the neocons and globalists, nobody is going to save those Ukrainians.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Something is obviously amiss here as if everybody was collecting ss it still wouldn't be 400m. I did find this:

DOGE: Millions over age 110 getting Social Security checks. 6 things to know about the claim

Elon Musk tweeted that millions over the age of 110 are collecting Social Security payments. Here are the reactions.

www.usatoday.com

That's what was originally reported. Swampy just read/heard it wrong.

 

[McDad]

We have spent about 8% of our defense budget on Israel and Ukraine combined. We can make that up through savings from DOGE. Supporting Ukraine will not destroy this country. We are the indispensable nation in the world to keep our enemies in check. These enemies are Russia, China, Iran and North Korea. You cannot buy peace in our time by putting off war with a dictator like Putin. This is nothing but appeasement. Neville Chamberlain tried it in 1938. It was a failure. Trump cannot buy peace until his term is over. Nixon tried it with North Vietnam in 1973. Within 2 years, Saigon had fallen. The rest of the world knew Nixon was going to fail. Right now, we have Russia in a corner and China hesitant. Trump now owns the debacle in Ukraine and his foreign policy mistakes.

I will gladly have this debate with anyone.

We are almost 40T in debt. At some point we have to let the world handle their regional skirmishes.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[LouderVol]

We have spent about 8% of our defense budget on Israel and Ukraine combined. We can make that up through savings from DOGE. Supporting Ukraine will not destroy this country. We are the indispensable nation in the world to keep our enemies in check. These enemies are Russia, China, Iran and North Korea. You cannot buy peace in our time by putting off war with a dictator like Putin. This is nothing but appeasement. Neville Chamberlain tried it in 1938. It was a failure. Trump cannot buy peace until his term is over. Nixon tried it with North Vietnam in 1973. Within 2 years, Saigon had fallen. The rest of the world knew Nixon was going to fail. Right now, we have Russia in a corner and China hesitant. Trump now owns the debacle in Ukraine and his foreign policy mistakes.

I will gladly have this debate with anyone.

We haven't had a treaty to give away any nation, so the 1938 comparison falls flat.

Chamberlain gave weapons and money to Poland, same thing we are doing with Ukraine. and Chamberlain was kicked out AFTER he devoted troops to fighting in Norway and it went poorly. people really don't know the history they claim.

North Vietnam was a lost cause long before 1973. at best it was another Afghanistan. We weren't the first to fail there, and we weren't fighting a conventional force where holding territory mattered.

I don't see how we have Russia in a corner anymore than at any other point? We grew NATO, NATO nations have increased spending, all of our allies have, even those not in NATO. none of that required us to be any more involved in Ukraine than we are, and arguably could have been achieved regardless of our involvement in Ukraine.

The whole point of DOGE is to save money, not to spend it somewhere else. you are just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic with this mindset.

china always plays the long game. I don't see them any more hesitant than they have been. if anything they have been far more aggressive lately than they ever have been. us tying up so much money and weapons in Ukraine frees them up.

 

[n_huffhines]

So nobody gave him a basic civics lesson between now and last time he said the dumbest **** ever about how our government works?

 

[FortSanders]

We are almost 40T in debt. At some point we have to let the world handle their regional skirmishes.

The Ukrainian war is not a regional skirmish. It has global implications. It was a brazen attack on a sovereign democracy at the gates of Europe. Putin has stated that his war aims are to reconstitute the borders of the old Soviet Union and the Czarist territory into Europe. Poland, the Czech Republic, Slovakia and the Baltic states are next on Putin's agenda. China and Iran are watching how we conduct this matter. If Ukraine falls, China will become more emboldened, starting with Taiwan. That would threaten Japan, the Philippines and Australia. It would sever trade routes with Japan and the Aukus countries and threaten the entire Indo-Pacific region, as Japan did in 1941.

 

[Orangeburst]

Washington prosecutor probes threats against DOGE, names Schumer as target

The top U.S. prosecutor in Washington launched an investigation on Wednesday into threats against federal workers - and named Democratic Senator Chuck Schumer as a target of the probe - after people working in Elon Musk's drive to downsize and overhaul the government said they had been...

ca.news.yahoo.com

 

[LSU-SIU]

So nobody gave him a basic civics lesson between now and last time he said the dumbest **** ever about how our government works?


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I don't care for the wording but what is the problem? (technically we don't live in a democracy, its suppose to be a republic with some democracy priniciples)