President Donald Trump - J.D. Vance Administration

[utvolpj]

it's better to attack both the supply and demand side. Stopping immigration will help some but eliminating supply side will stop it.

it' not easy to get people to quit taking drugs, it's easier to kill the supply side.

Control the supply side from the us which is the opposite of what the lost war on drugs tried to do. You don't start a new way in a sovereign country as the first idea. It's so stupid

 

[Sandman 423]

Yeah, control the immigration so you can have better enforcement. Also, don't do drugs

It amazes me how flippant people are about the idea of assonating people in other sovereign countries.

 

[utvolpj]

Actually, that's not really the "problem", the President has this power and it comes from the Constitution. He actually has a duty, now whether you think its justified to a T is another matter and an opinion.

Those powers greatly expand with the terrorist designation. This is not a great justification for the power

 

[LSU-SIU]

Control the supply side from the us which is the opposite of what the lost war on drugs tried to do. You don't start a new way in a sovereign country as the first idea. It's so stupid

Actually the old way failed long ago, I do agree you're never going to stop it but if its linked to illegals than its killing two birds with one stone.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Those powers greatly expand with the terrorist designation. This is not a great justification for the power

Sure it is. Depends on the particulars.

Let's say you have 20-50m of these criminals in here already, you've long been at war buddy.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Every American president since Reagan has known that Eastward expansion of NATO towards Russias border would mean war. Period. We promised NOT to expand eastward...then let 10 more smaller countries join anyway. Getting closer and closer to the Bear.

Barry and his cronies ALL knew that Ukraine would never be allowed to join NATO by Russia. Just like we would never allow Mexico or Canada to join with Communist China or Russia. It would be war. Those idiots provoked this war intentionally...just so the Dems and the MIC could get millions and billions of dollars. Killed 2 whole generations of Ukraine men and conpletely destroyed most of their country. For no good reason.

We never should have provoked this war, never should have wasted 100s of billions of American dollars, never should have been involved at all in the first place. The Democrats have the blood of hundreds of thousands of men on their hands. All because of greed. Disgusting and completely unnecessary.

I think it was carter's fault

 

[LSU-SIU]

I think it was carter's fault

Not unless he was involved after the fall of the USSR. (see Congressional Record)

 

[jmacvols1]

Control the supply side from the us which is the opposite of what the lost war on drugs tried to do. You don't start a new way in a sovereign country as the first idea. It's so stupid

what is Mexico doing about the cartels? The war is not against Mexico but the cartels. Mexico can help or get out of the way. Mexico IS RESPONSIBLE for all the American deaths every year for doing nothing or much of of nothing.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Not unless he was involved after the fall of the USSR. (see Congressional Record)

He was a Democrat,that's good enough for magas

 

[LSU-SIU]

what is Mexico doing about the cartels? The war is not against Mexico but the cartels. Mexico can help or get out of the way. Mexico IS RESPONSIBLE for all the American deaths every year for doing nothing or much of of nothing.

They have all been warned.... all the way down to South America. They have to solve the problem at the source. I mentioned this I think on day 2, meaning that is the directives that are being given across the board.

The way things were being ran before and failed is now out the window, that doesn't mean there won't be failures but obvious what they were doing was working.... and in most cases were designed not to work.

 

[LSU-SIU]

He was a Democrat,that's good enough for magas

Not sure what this means.

 

[utvolpj]

what is Mexico doing about the cartels? The war is not against Mexico but the cartels. Mexico can help or get out of the way. Mexico IS RESPONSIBLE for all the American deaths every year for doing nothing or much of of nothing.

Where's the fent coming from? I mean if you're serious then you go to the real supply. Let's jitsu start a war with China. Makes about as much sense

 

[LSU-SIU]

Where's the fent coming from? I mean if you're serious then you go to the real supply. Let's jitsu start a war with China. Makes about as much sense

They have already stepped up on China i.e. tariffs. That is just step 1.

Happy?

Makes about as much sense

You should do more reading and much less writing, imo.

The goals is to eliminate the sources of the problem i.e. what I said on day 2.

 

[utvolpj]

Sure it is. Depends on the particulars.

Let's say you have 20-50m of these criminals in here already, you've long been at war buddy.

This designation has zero to do with that. It's about attacking the cartels in Mexico with us assets. It's a really bad idea

 

[jmacvols1]

Where's the fent coming from? I mean if you're serious then you go to the real supply. Let's jitsu start a war with China. Makes about as much sense

I don't know where the Cartels are getting it, China?... but stop the cartels and it will come to an end.

Again, the war would not be with Mexico but with the cartels, Mexico can help in that war.....if it happens.

If Mexico does not want to do anything, then Mexico becomes the enemy of the US

 

[LSU-SIU]

This designation has zero to do with that. It's about attacking the cartels in Mexico with us assets. It's a really bad idea

I don't see how. You're (U.S.) at war, have been the whole time.

 

[utvolpj]

I don't know where the Cartels are getting it, China?... but stop the cartels and it will come to an end.

Again, the war is not with Mexico but with the cartels, Mexico can help in that war.....if it happens.

Wait, you're about to push for war in Mexico yet don't even know where the stuff comes from?

 

[LSU-SIU]

Wait, you're about to push for war in Mexico yet don't even know where the stuff comes from?

I don't know where my Flour comes from but that doesn't mean anything. If they believe they can stop illegals, drugs, and illegal firearms from going to Mexico.... not sure what the problem is.

Sane people aren't going to argue whether or not illegals are coming from there and cartels are active there.

 

[jmacvols1]

Wait, you're about to push for war in Mexico yet don't even know where the stuff comes from?

possible from China, I personally do not follow the drug trades but those in Washington do know where it's coming from.

Stop the cartels and China will have no one in Mexico to send it to.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Wait, you're about to push for war in Mexico yet don't even know where the stuff comes from?

Mexico has been warned, as has countries countries south of them.

"Clean up your ****, or we will come and deal with it."

So, instead of being 4,000 miles away and causing wars for no reason, you deal with problems here and fix the sources of the problem here.

I would think about doing what the Orange man says in this instance, he's not wrong. (I wouldn't want to see it get to the ear ripping part)

This isn't complex that I can see.

For the record, I think the 1989 Panama invasion was overreach, just my opinion.... as was Grenada.

 

[Buddy’s Bandit]

Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the Dem Party have had just as much to do with that.

Minimally , Trump has made/kept promises on the border, been totally transparent while cutting size and cost of government, and bringing back safety and security to the American people.….all of which Biden could have done but did not. In fact, he made each of those areas far worse.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Elon Musk never said that.

Yes he did at least according to Newsweek. Elon claimed there were 400 million over the age of 100 recieving ss. When 68.5 million is the total receiving benefits

 

[Orange_Crush]

Minimally , Trump has made/kept promises on the border, been totally transparent while cutting size and cost of government, and bringing back safety and security to the American people.….all of which Biden could have done but did not. In fact, he made each of those areas far worse.

Agreed.

 

[LouderVol]

I don't know where my Flour comes from but that doesn't mean anything. If they believe they can stop illegals, drugs, and illegal firearms from going to Mexico.... not sure what the problem is.

Sane people aren't going to argue whether or not illegals are coming from there and cartels are active there.

just like they believed they could bring Democracy to Iraq and Afghanistan? how much did the US in afghanistan stop the flow of opium? I remember it increasing while we are there.

There is zero reason to believe we will be any more efficient "nation" building the cartels than we were the Taliban.

 

[LouderVol]

Minimally , Trump has made/kept promises on the border, been totally transparent while cutting size and cost of government, and bringing back safety and security to the American people.….all of which Biden could have done but did not. In fact, he made each of those areas far worse.

no he hasn't.

if he has, tell us who is in charge of DOGE? Who is doing all of these reviews? Have we heard about all of the reviews, or just the ones he wants us to hear about? Why does the DOGE "savings" still claim the 8 BILLION even after DOGE admitted it was only 8 million?