President Joe Biden - Kamala Harris Administration

[Franklin Pierce]

BREAKING NEWS: Louisiana judge blocks Biden from lifting Title 42 at the border: Rules White House must keep restrictions in place following plan officials feared would cause a huge migrant surge and chaos at the border

A Louisiana federal judge on Friday temporarily blocked the Biden administration from ending Title 42, the CDC public health order border agents rely on to turn migrants away.

Judge Robert Summerhays, a Trump appointee in the Western District of Louisiana, granted a preliminary injunction on the Biden administration's move to end the restriction on Monday in response to lawsuits from two dozen Republican states, led by Arizona, Louisiana and Missouri.

Summerhays had said he would rule on the matter before Monday.

The states claim the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is violating the Administrative Procedures Act because they did not provide a notice-and-comment period for the plan to lift Title 42. The law also bars moves deemed 'arbitrary and capricious.'

The states claim that the Biden administration failed to account for the added cost to them of more migrants being allowed in.

Louisiana judge rules Biden must KEEP Title 42 in place | Daily Mail Online

 

[Orangeburst]

Then they can pay taxes like everybody else

How in Hades are taxes relevant to affecting policy and elections, especially when half the voting citizenry does not pay any taxes?
And you think non profits in the secular world dont influence elections?

 

[allvol123]

It could, but think about if biden really manages somehow by executive order to pull off cancelling student debt before the election. Which areas is that going to affect the most, and it would do a lot for an important segment of dem voters. Even if it's stopped and goes to the court, that turns it into the evil GOP that took money from their pockets. The dems are full of dirty tricks and ways to influence their voters. If they can't buy an election, they can sure turn it to make it seem that it was above board and they were stopped by the GOP. I think they are just holding their punches for the right time, and in the meantime states like OK are just making it easier for them.

The stuff I am seeing scares the hell out of me and I am seeing an economy hardly anyone alive has ever seen. I think it is going to hit a really bad point in the Fall. I don’t think the Dems will have a trick for that.

 

[AM64]

A church is free to set its own membership requirements as it sees fit!!!! It is a voluntary association explicitly protected constitutionally fro Government meddling or control! You are normally very logical individual. What in the world are you smoking today?
It sure sounds like you are saying a government official should be able to review a church‘s membership roles and add or delete members according to government Diktat!!!!
What gives dude??????

State and church should be separate. The church absolutely is the right place to implant moral views. Those moral views can and should carry over into everyday life ... including the job. I'd hate to see or work in a world where people don't hold ethical values similar to those something like the Ten Commandments. I'm not very religious myself, but I do very much believe in the same ethical behavior espoused by most religions. I understand your argument that a church official may be offended by how a member acts outside the church; but in an area where the beliefs the church and the beliefs of the people being represented (the US population) come into conflict, then the separation has to be maintained. If not, this is simply an organization holding a member of the government or other organization hostage when things come into conflict.

Most religions may not be exactly managed from the bottom up, but they aren't nearly so driven from the top down as the catholic church. This is an age old "dispute" between the government and the catholic church - I personally remember it being brought up when Kennedy was running for president.

 

[AM64]

The stuff I am seeing scares the hell out of me and I am seeing an economy hardly anyone alive has ever seen. I think it is going to hit a really bad point in the Fall. I don’t think the Dems will have a trick for that.

It's bad, but I did survive the Carter years so there's that. I don't think the dems have any answers ... they certainly have the potential for making things worse; but what they do have is a great propaganda machine including most of the press to manipulate their voters.

 

[Matt2496]

The stuff I am seeing scares the hell out of me and I am seeing an economy hardly anyone alive has ever seen. I think it is going to hit a really bad point in the Fall. I don’t think the Dems will have a trick for that.

I don't see any way we don't have a major recession, especially with the dummies in charge.

 

[Orangeburst]

I don't see any way we don't have a major recession, especially with the dummies in charge.

Heard on radio, not sure if accurate, but seems to be. The average American household has lost $7K in purchasing power in a year if this continues. Being a consumer economy, well that is a lot of hurt.
Gonna be nasty and a slippery slide into unemployment, mortgage defaults, business closings.

 

[utvolpj]

How in Hades are taxes relevant to affecting policy and elections, especially when half the voting citizenry does not pay any taxes?
And you think non profits in the secular world dont influence elections?

According to the rules they aren't allowed to influence elections either. Everyone works under the same rules of the classification.

If a church wants to break those rules and influence policy they can pay taxes.

 

[Orangeburst]

According to the rules they aren't allowed to influence elections either. Everyone works under the same rules of the classification.

If a church wants to break those rules and influence policy they can pay taxes.

Are you denying that secular non profits dont influence policy?
Are you suggesting that only taxpayers should be allowed to vote? I could get on board with that.
Think you are missing the 1st Amendment, regardless of any law.

 

[utvolpj]

Are you denying that secular non profits dont influence policy?
Are you suggesting that only taxpayers should be allowed to vote? I could get on board with that.
Think you are missing the 1st Amendment, regardless of any law.

I'm saying there are rules to them and others being classified a nonprofit and everyone is subject to the same. Feel free to look up the rules and compare to the ones you believe are breaking them

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

BREAKING NEWS: Louisiana judge blocks Biden from lifting Title 42 at the border: Rules White House must keep restrictions in place following plan officials feared would cause a huge migrant surge and chaos at the border

A Louisiana federal judge on Friday temporarily blocked the Biden administration from ending Title 42, the CDC public health order border agents rely on to turn migrants away.

Judge Robert Summerhays, a Trump appointee in the Western District of Louisiana, granted a preliminary injunction on the Biden administration's move to end the restriction on Monday in response to lawsuits from two dozen Republican states, led by Arizona, Louisiana and Missouri.

Summerhays had said he would rule on the matter before Monday.

The states claim the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is violating the Administrative Procedures Act because they did not provide a notice-and-comment period for the plan to lift Title 42. The law also bars moves deemed 'arbitrary and capricious.'

The states claim that the Biden administration failed to account for the added cost to them of more migrants being allowed in.

Louisiana judge rules Biden must KEEP Title 42 in place | Daily Mail Online

Won’t matter. The current leftist scum administration and their corrupt DOJ will ignore like they have with “The remain in Mexico” ruling. Most corrupt administration in history.

 

[Orangeburst]

I'm saying there are rules to them and others being classified a nonprofit and everyone is subject to the same. Feel free to look up the rules and compare to the ones you believe are breaking them

Tell that to BLM. Or any of hundreds of orgs. Screw that..thousands.

 

[utvolpj]

Tell that to BLM. Or any of hundreds of orgs. Screw that..thousands.

Tell them what? Is BLM also a 501c3? Are those other thousands you're worried about?

 

[Orangeburst]

Tell them what? Is BLM also a 501c3? Are those other thousands you're worried about?

We going to play semantics with law between charity and non profit?
Regardless, very libertarian of you to support more taxes and impose speech restriction.
Even a few years ago in Houston, I heard the pastor have to refrain words against the Hero Law, which was moralistic...and frankly chilling to see that lack of 1st Amendment rights in our nation

 

[utvolpj]

We going to play semantics with law between charity and non profit?
Regardless, very libertarian of you to support more taxes and impose speech restriction.
Even a few years ago in Houston, I heard the pastor have to refrain words against the Hero Law, which was moralistic...and frankly chilling to see that lack of 1st Amendment rights in our nation

It's not semantics it's the actual written rules of their classification. The ones you seen so upset about are not classified the same and that's their choice

 

[Orangeburst]

It's not semantics it's the actual written rules of their classification. The ones you seen so upset about are not classified the same and that's their choice

Well the law is not always correct.
Never thought I would see you defend such...your hate of religion must be deep and willing to throw away 1st Amendment and libertarian rights.

 

[utvolpj]

Well the law is not always correct.
Never thought I would see you defend such...your hate of religion must be deep and willing to throw away 1st Amendment and libertarian rights.

What did I defend? I'm simply stating what the rules are and why they can't engage in political activities. You seem to not understand why a church is different than BLM and I was just trying to help.

 

[Carl Pickens]

How bad do things have to get before a majority of Democrats figure out that they chose poorly? When do they finally admit that their vote is destroying their budget, their savings, and their standard of Living?

Most are too stupid to understand simple math

 

[Orangeburst]

What did I defend? I'm simply stating what the rules are and why they can't engage in political activities. You seem to not understand why a church is different than BLM and I was just trying to help.

Are they both not 501C3? Does BLM pay taxes? Does the Catholic Church pay taxes? Should the Vatican pay taxes with his CC announcements?
I am trying to educate myself.

 

[Switch 625]

This is the entire point of 501 entities. Politics from the pulpit can get your tax exempt status revoked.

That whole tax exemption for churches was specifically designed to hold leverage against the church thus minimize its influence. “Keep quiet church it’ll cost you.”

 

[Switch 625]

Then they can pay taxes like everybody else

So, why do only churches have to remain apolitical? All kinds of charities are active politically.

 

[Orangeburst]

That whole tax exemption for churches was specifically designed to hold leverage against the church thus minimize its influence. “Keep quiet church it’ll cost you.”

It is so convoluted in the IRS code of what constitutes such between policy and religious morality and political beliefs.
You do not ever hear "Vote for X candidate ". And yet that gay Mayor in Houston threatened churches years ago. Chilling.

 

[utvolpj]

Are they both not 501C3? Does BLM pay taxes? Does the Catholic Church pay taxes? Should the Vatican pay taxes with his CC announcements?
I am trying to educate myself.

BLM is not a 501c3

 

[utvolpj]

That whole tax exemption for churches was specifically designed to hold leverage against the church thus minimize its influence. “Keep quiet church it’ll cost you.”

Actually it's the opposite. They carved out religion to prevent going against the 1st amendment by imposing taxes on them

 

[Orangeburst]

BLM is not a 501c3

You want to hang your hat on that?

Straight from their website:

Mission: Black Lives Matter Foundation wants to comprehensively improve and elevate the lives of Black and Brown people via knowledge of our history and with education that w ... (More)
Black Lives Matter Foundation is a 501(c)(3) organization, with an IRS ruling year of 2015,