Pro-Russia Trump Led Republicans Vote Against NATO

[Vol8188]

I dont care if Swe and Fin engage in war as long as it isn't against America.

If they join NATO and engage in war, so do we. That's why many oppose their inclusion.

 

[utvolpj]

This is the logical approach. If you don't agree with America's alliance with NATO, you should want America out rather than not wanting others in.

That's a good point. Why are we in if we don't want to have an alliance with all? Besides money, what makes the US more valuable?

 

[utvolpj]

If they join NATO and engage in war, so do we. That's why many oppose their inclusion.

But again, why are we so limiting on who to join in war? Seems like we could figure this out if the time came instead of locking ourselves in ahead of time.

 

[Vol8188]

But again, why are we so limiting on who to join in war? Seems like we could figure this out if the time came instead of locking ourselves in ahead of time.

Yeah, that's the argument I am making. Limiting NATO membership allows us to "figure this out if the time came".

 

[luthervol]

Fortunately, they don’t matter.

But they most certainly do accurately reflect Trump's desire.

 

[Vol8188]

But they most certainly do accurately reflect Trump's desire.

To avoid war?

 

[tvolsfan]

To avoid war?

Adding Finland and Sweden to NATO won’t bring us any closer to war, and it may well prevent one.

 

[Vol8188]

Adding Finland and Sweden to NATO won’t bring us any closer to war, and it may well prevent one.

If they to war what do we have to do?

 

[luthervol]

To avoid war?

To appease Russia.

 

[Vol8188]

To appease Russia.

So you're okay with the US going to war as long as it doesn't "appease Russia"? Odd stance.

 

[McDad]

If they join NATO and engage in war, so do we. That's why many oppose their inclusion.

Then, the angst over their admission is better remedied by our exclusive from the alliance.

 

[luthervol]

If they to war what do we have to do?

Why would Finland or Sweden go to war?

 

[Vol8188]

Why would Finland or Sweden go to war?

If they won’t, why place them in nato? If they will, there’s more reason not to allow them in.

Do you believe we need to be in more wars?

 

[Vol8188]

Then, the angst over their admission is better remedied by our exclusive from the alliance.

Exclusion?

 

[tvolsfan]

If they join NATO and engage in war, so do we.

Only if they’re attacked.

 

[Vol8188]

Only if they’re attacked.

That doesn’t really help

 

[tvolsfan]

That doesn’t really help

They’re much safer from attack in NATO.

Do you really think the US would sit out a war between Russia and the EU? Of course not. This reduces the likelihood of that war.

 

[utvolpj]

Only if they’re attacked.

If they were attacked today would no one come to their aid?

 

[tvolsfan]

If they were attacked today would no one come to their aid?

Of course others would. Almost certainly including us in some form.

 

[Vol8188]

They’re much safer from attack in NATO.

Odd. Wasn’t joining nato part of what lead to the war in Ukraine?

 

[tvolsfan]

Odd. Wasn’t joining nato part of what lead to the war in Ukraine?

Only if you actually believe Putin, who, coincidentally, only attacks countries not in NATO.

 

[luthervol]

If they won’t, why place them in nato? If they will, there’s more reason not to allow them in.

Do you believe we need to be in more wars?

I believe fewer countries need to be invaded by Russia.

 

[utvolpj]

They’re much safer from attack in NATO.

Do you really think the US would sit out a war between Russia and the EU? Of course not. This reduces the likelihood of that war.

Or it's one more possible weak spot that could be used to bring NATO into a war

 

[tvolsfan]

I believe fewer countries need to be invaded by Russia.

And that Russian expansion east would greatly weaken the west, including us.

 

[Vol8188]

I believe fewer countries need to be invaded by Russia.

Talks of joining nato is how Ukraine became invaded by Russia. So are your u willing to go their and die?